Cesc charged by the fa for improper conduct

Post by **Belfast Boy** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:28 pm

Cockerill's chin wrote:That Cesc has been charged following the rants of Brown is disgraceful. The FA have decided a nobody wins policy is best but Cesc has got a lot more to lose than Brown. By charging Cesc they have vindicated Brown's rant and demonstrable lies and labelled Cesc a spitter. Unfortuantely, in our bizarre culture, an alleged spit on the floor will be used as weapon to beat his character more than if he had broken a non-englishman's leg on the pitch.

Brown's handshake amnesia and venim when talking about "a club like Arsenal" will be forgotten by a media who will support his right to rage against an off-side goal. In spite of appearances, I hope Brown's time in the sunshine is limited and Hull sink from the Premiership without a trace.

Chunkey, I disagree with you about Cesc's right to be on the pitch. After the game the Hull players and staff were thugs. They surrounded Riley and gobbed off to any Arsenal player within 20 yards. Cesc didn't back away from them and gets hammered for it. Our club captain wanted to celebrate a hard win on his own turf with the squad. Who are Hull and Brown to say he can't or should shy away from their anger???

They love throwing the no backbone at Arsenal but as soon as any of our players show backbone then it is a nasty streak, arrogance and punishable. He's been charged for not running away from Hull's angry swagger after getting beat. Fuck the media and Fuck the FA.

Thanks CC when I read Chunky's strange post I thought I was goin to have to take him to task, but I think now after that I don't have to - well said

eDub · Post by **eDub** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:23 pm

perfectly said CC

by the way, if i recall correctly... didn't that bastard Brown change his story a few times right after the "incident" happened? i remember him saying right after the match that he didn't actually see the incident but believed Horton's story... but after several interviews, he later changed his own story to say he DID see the supposed spitting first hand.

lying *word censored*.

gusher311 · Post by **gusher311** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:37 pm

I really hope he did spit on him

olgitgooner · Post by **olgitgooner** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:42 pm

In the absence of Quartz, may I say something sensible?

Cesc has been CHARGED of an offence.

He has not been convicted.

Or am I wrong?

mcdowell42 · Post by **mcdowell42** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:46 pm

olgitgooner wrote:In the absence of Quartz, may I say something sensible?

Cesc has been CHARGED of an offence.

He has not been convicted.

Or am I wrong?

Your dead right oldgit and i would nearly put money on it that he will be cleared but for that prick brown hes fucked

Cockerill's chin · Post by **Cockerill's chin** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:08 pm

It's different I think Olgit. We have until the 12th to appeal and I don't hold any hope of that going by AW's comments today (see earlier in the thread). If we don't appeal they will hand out their punishment.

Although I could be wrong. We need an FA insider. Does anybody know someone with a man on the inside

charliegeorgewhocanhitem · Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:24 pm

Chunky Monkey wrote:What i don't understand is why Cesc had to get involved, Being club captain he should of after the game gone back down the tunnel and celebrated with the boys in the dressing

WTF was he doing on the pitch - Arsenal FC & Cesc cocked up big time take your punishment and stop fucking whinging - hope the little spaniard has learnt from this

He was on the fucking pitch celebrating an FA cup quarter final win, showing solidarity with his team mates. If it had been a manc or a scouser doing the same thing at OT or Anfield nobody would even have mentioned it :roll I really hope that the "little Spaniard" has learnt that we get fucking shit from the press, FA, even from some of our own so called "fans" and every other *word censored* and vows to continue being an Arsenal man through and through despite all this bollocks. I really hope that Hull continue their recent form and go back to where they belong, along with their orange skinned fucking prick of a manager and the "little Spaniard" continues to captain the greatest club the world has ever seen. Can't fucking believe that any so called Arsenal "fan" could be against us on this shit. Oh well, nothing should really surprise me nowadays I spose

LeftfootlegendGooner · Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:41 pm

ronaldo spits at robbie savage this season and it is clearly caught on camera, when interviewed after the match robbie says 'it was nothing' and no action whatsoever was taken??????????????????????????????

Absolutely fuckin fed up with this shit, i am gonna give up following football because the fa always punish the arsenal.

I feel that i am being paranoid about some sort of twisted conspiracy theory, and other so called supporters of other so called teams remark that us goners whinge too much but i can honestly say if it happened to manu, chavs, mousers they would be fuckn rioting and looting for weeks (alright in liverpool this probably happens every weekend).

goonersid · Post by **goonersid** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:48 pm

If we are all honest, then I think something went on in the tunnel that night, only those present know the truth.
Phil fucktwat brown and his horde of thick horde of northern cnuts, were so unable to except defeat that, their blind prejudice and dare I say racism, prevented them from giving a collective account of events, thus the story changing and need for more time to concoct a colluded story.
I reckon all concerned will escape with a warning over their future conduct, hopefully that will have no relevance to brown if he is managing a championship side next season.

olgitgooner · Post by **olgitgooner** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:01 pm

Cuntish Hull manager and his cuntish staff made a stupid allegation.

They went to a solicitor to attempt to get their "facts" straight. Phibber Brown had already changed his story three times.

FA has to investigate. Therefor a "charge" has been brought against Cesc.

I reckon the allegation is totally untrue. And the FA will find it impossible to prove.

I hope Hull get relegated.

Their manager will find it difficult to get a new job. He has no integrity. And no class.

Number 5 · Post by **Number 5** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:00 pm

Cockerill's chin wrote:It's different I think Olgit. We have until the 12th to appeal and I don't hold any hope of that going by AW's comments today (see earlier in the thread). If we don't appeal they will hand out their punishment.

Although I could be wrong. We need an FA insider. Does anybody know someone with a man on the inside

For the second time today and in the same thread no less, you are correct CC.

The FA have read all the submisisons and seen all the "evidence" so there is no trial as such to be held. Once they charge you, you have in essence been found guilty unless you decide to appeal. Had they thought there was nothing in it they would ahve said there was no charge to answer.

The appeal would really be a not guilty plea, and if you didn't appeal by the deadline again in essence it would be a guilty plea. By appealing, all the previous submissions would go to an appeal board and if they upheld the original charge you'd likely get punished heavier.

This is the word of the Lord

All: Thanks be to No.5

olgitgooner · Post by **olgitgooner** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:09 pm

We should appeal, then.

And run the risk of a heavier penalty.

Are the FA really going to spend a lot of time trying to uphold a bullshit allegation?

Gooner Jim · Post by **Gooner Jim** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:18 pm

When will this 'video evidence' be put on public display?
I knew Cesc had a bit of a temper but I thought he had matured.

Post by **g88ner** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:35 pm

olgitgooner wrote:Are the FA really going to spend a lot of time trying to uphold a bullshit allegation?

BUT we don't actually know that it's all made up bullshit, do we??!!

Just because Phil Brown is a despicable human being, whose integrity has been shot to peices by his lies, doesn't mean an incident didn't take place. Maybe Cesc spat at the floor, or at Horton's feet, or maybe he didn't spit at all... I have no idea, and neither does anyone on this forum.

The FA have studied the evidence and decided there's enough there to charge Cesc.... we have no idea what evidence they have. We haven't read the report.

I'm all for backing Cesc, and having a go at the FA... But on what basis would I be holding that opinion?? Nothing! absolutely nothing.

I have no reason to believe that the FA are corrupt, nor do I have a reason to think they are against Arsenal, or that they're being xenophobic.

Is it not possible that they're just doing their job?? that the evidence, from sources that we may not be aware of, suggests that Cesc wasn't a little angel that night, after all??

We don't know what happened, so all we can do is wait and see what comes of the charges.

If NOTHING happened then the charges will be dropped.

Either way, I'm not going to bang the drums of injustice when I have NO EVIDENCE or knowledge to support that view.

Post by **Chippy** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:28 pm

Everybody has their knickers in a twist here. Cesc has not been found guilty of anything. Much as CC is a guru he is wrong on this one. Until the FA hand down the punishment he is not guilty or suspended, and did anyone think that it would not go at least this far.

If there is evidence then so be it. If there isn't why accept it, lets appeal.

Brown is the big loser here. There's not a footy fan (except 1 or 2 in Hull) who doesn't think he's a prize prat.