Chairman Usmanov!!!!

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RaM wrote:... how much do you pay for a seat at the Emirates?
Not too sure how much tickets are for a single match, but I know that the 'AVERAGE' price of a season ticket for the Arse' is about a thousand quid.

Whereas the 'AVERAGE' season ticket price at Old Trafford is about 750.

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So really:

None of us will stop supporting the club, although we will dislike the fact that its being run by a...well whatever Usmanov is.

Which is basically what I said earlier in this thread I think.


And can someone tell me the ticket price at Ashburton Grove?

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ram,,
our supporters club pay £46 per ticket
£66 for man u , chelsea, lfc and sp*rs
sit above the away fans which can be fun :wink:

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I go in the Family Enclosure with my son and it is £33, but if you don't gte in fast they are gone. I paid £66 each for ManUre game. When you add in programme, Gooner, drinks, bloody expensive pies and train tickets you are looking at close to £200 for the day!!!

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Oh ok, so to buy a ticket as a one off sort of thing is actually very difficult...

And never a hope in hell of tickets at the gate i suppose?

46 pounds is about 105 Aussie dollars, so I suppose its about the price of an international rugby match.

Lol, an A-League match over here the most you pay is 46 dollars for A category!

And I usually buy concession C category (right at the top of the stadium) for $18...

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Chippy wrote:I go in the Family Enclosure with my son and it is £33, but if you don't gte in fast they are gone. I paid £66 each for ManUre game. When you add in programme, Gooner, drinks, bloody expensive pies and train tickets you are looking at close to £200 for the day!!!
or if you make a weekend out of it like us then your looking at 1000euro.. flights hotel transport etc
lots of alcohol :wink: and the bi yearly visit to the club shop :roll:

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RaM wrote:Oh ok, so to buy a ticket as a one off sort of thing is actually very difficult...

And never a hope in hell of tickets at the gate i suppose?

46 pounds is about 105 Aussie dollars, so I suppose its about the price of an international rugby match.

Lol, an A-League match over here the most you pay is 46 dollars for A category!

And I usually buy concession C category (right at the top of the stadium) for $18...
Put it this way

Man Utd's top price season ticket is around the cost of our lowest price season ticket.

And the point about lower wages in the North in this day and age is bollocks - If people are salaried, they will be paid the same in London as in manchester, other than a weighting allowance which mostly covers travel or rent differentials.

My point is - we are shafted on a regular basis!

:oops:

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Well it is an addiction I suppose...same reason a drug dealer can charge whatever he wants. He knows he'll get it!

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My only fix this season has been the 3-1 dumping on sp**s at Shite Hart Lane.

Now that's I call hardcore drug use!

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What a Rush Man...... :D

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AUGIE,

I MEANT WE THE FANS ULTIMATELY HAVE THE POWER WHEN CHOOSING WHETHER OR NOT TO BUY A TICKET AND MERCHANDISE. IF ENOUGH PEOPLE WERE UNHAPPY WITH THE SITUATION AND DECIDED TO STOP GIVING THE CLUB MONEY DIRECTLY, THEN IT WOULD HAVE TO IMPACT AT SOME POINT.

YOU USE THE MANCHESTER UNITED SUPPORTERS' EXPERIENCE AND ARE CORRECT IN SAYING THAT THEIR PROTESTS DIDN'T STOP THE GLAZIERS TAKEOVER AND THAT OLD TRAFFORD IS STILL SOLD OUT EVERY WEEK REGARDLESS. HOWEVER, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEIR WAITING LIST - WHICH WAS TENS OF THOUSANDS LONG - HAS NOW EVAPORATED.

THE THING IS THE MAN UTD BOARD ARE ALIENATING THEIR SUPPORTERS EVEN MORE THIS SEASON, AND NOT ONLY WITH PRICE RISES. LOOK AT WHAT THEY'RE FORCING THEIR FANS TO DO REGARDING TICKETS FOR CARLING CUP AND CHAMPIONS LEAGUE MATCHES - COMPELLING SEASON TICKET HOLDERS TO PAY FOR THOSE GAMES OR RISK LOSING THEIR SEASON TICKET. THAT HAS ALREADY ANGERED A LOT OF MAN UTD FANS AND WILL FURTHER NEGATIVELY IMPACT ON THE CLUB'S SUPPORT.

AS I SAID PREVIOUSLY, THE 'POWER IN OUR HANDS' THAT I SPEAK ABOUT IS IN THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A CHOICE WHETHER OR NOT TO GIVE THE CLUB OUR CASH - THERE IS NO COMPULSION HERE. THOSE OF US THAT ARE AGAINST USMANOV TAKING ARSENAL OVER HAVE THE FREEDOM AND THE RIGHT TO NOT GIVE HIM OUR MONEY. IT DOESN'T MEAN WE STOP BEING FANS BUT IT DOES MEAN US NOT 'SUPPORTING' THE CLUB FINANCIALLY, WHICH AFTERALL IS ALL THAT USMANOV IS REALLY INTERESTED IN.

I KNOW THAT IT WOULD BE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT THING FOR ARSENAL SUPPORTERS TO DO, ESPECIALLY EMOTIONALLY, BUT IF ENOUGH PEOPLE TAKE THAT VIEW, THERE WILL BE AN IMPACT THAT COULDN'T BE IGNORED. AT THE VERY LEAST THE PRICE OF THE SHARES WOULD TAKE A DIP AND THAT MIGHT LEAD TO USMANOV RE-CONSIDERING WHETHER OR NOT ARSENAL WAS A WISE 'INVESTMENT' - WHICH IS ALL HE REALLY CARES ABOUT ANYWAY.

IN CONCLUSION, I WOULD RATHER TRY TO DO SOMETHING AND FAIL, THEN TO SIT THERE AND JUST ACCEPT THE INEVITABLE. AS THE FAMOUS SAYING GOES: THE SHAME IS NOT IN LOSING THE FIGHT, IT'S IN NOT PUTTING ONE UP!! I, FOR ONE, AM AT LEAST WILLING TO PUT UP A FIGHT. :lol: :wink:

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I know its not much in the grand scheme of things, but I for one, decided before this season started that I was not going to buy a replica shirt this year.
Something I have been doing for years. ( I got a cupboard almost full of the things !)

Anyway, that is my personal protest against the club that I love.

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I understand where you are coming from IHH but I should also say that, unless my understanding of the situation is incorrect, if/when usmanov gains full control he will pull the shares altogether therefore there can be no drop in share price. I am fully behind any planned boycott of club merchandise but do not believe for even a nanosecond that fans will stop attending matches by choice because everybody(the club included) know that there are thousands on a waiting list that will jump at the chance to take their place regardless of club ownership.

For over a decade now the game of football has no longer belonged to the fans. Since the day when tv money became more lucrative to the clubs than gate money we the fans have been marginalised. Protests like those at manure and indeed wimbledon have been largely unsuccessful and imo will continue to be so. Whether we like it or not until all this media hype about the best league in the world goes away clubs will continue to attract all sorts of "business people" looking for good investments/publicity.

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augie wrote:Tell me highbury jd, where is the morality in the club seeking to copyright the phrase "Gooner" ?

I also think you misread the signals from your fellow fans when you claim that they do not care. As far as I am concerned the club exists for the fans and our love of the club should be a constant regardless of the ownership. Some would have you believe that the board are fighting against a takeover here for the fans benefit but to me that is largely rubbish - they are fighting against this because(a) they do not want an usmanov character owning our club which is how we all feel (b) they do not want to see DD return to power at the club. This has turned into a silly personal vendetta between 2 men who used to be good friends and have now lead to this. As a fan who does care I am now at the point that I am just pissed off with the whole scenario and want it sorted one way or another and soon but I will still love and support the club no matter who is in charge be it phw,fiszman,usmanov or please god DD.
The board have done some crass and stupid things, the attempt to patent "Gooner" being one example, another being Hill-Wood's bizarre Little Englander reaction when Kroenke first came on the scene.

But I do still think the board is broadly genuine in talking about being custodians of the club. They could have taken dividends out of the club at any time but haven't. Hill-Wood aside (since his shareholding is very small), they could all do a Dein and cash in big time but so far they haven't. I know, I know, they could be playing a long game and waiting for an even bigger pay-out but there's no sign of that so far, they're even talking of a new 12-month lock-down agreement. I agree they don't want to sell to Usmanov partly because they don't like the look of him and partly because they don't want to allow Dein back in, but quite frankly I agree with them on both those things.

Gus is right that the board need to accept the possibility of change, and that coming to an arrangement with Kroenke may not be an entirely bad thing, at least for defeating Usmanov and Dein. Beyond that objective though, and even though it might one day be necessary to get a billionaire's funding, there's no immediate reason to change the ownership structure - that's clear from the club's revenue statements. As is clear from Usmanov's suggestion that dividends should be paid to shareholders, a change in ownership could just as easily see the club get poorer as richer.

Of course we'll all live the rest of our lives with "Arsenal" emblazoned on our hearts, that's the irrational mystery of being a true football fan. I (like many of you) supported the club when we were absolutely shit, watching Brady go off to his real career in Italy, playing in front of crowds for league games as low as 17,000, churning out the worst football imaginable and finishing nowhere in the league. And we'll carry on supporting Arsenal in the same way, whatever happens.

But if that utter *word censored* Usmanov and his henchman take over, I will fight the bastards anyway I can, perhaps even including giving up my season ticket. That won't be because I don't love the club, quite the reverse, it will be because I do love Arsenal.

As for ending the uncertainty, I agree it would be good if it happened soon, but I don't think it will. Unless (as I suggested previously but which of course won't happen) Wenger pulled the rug from under Usmanov and Dein and said he would leave if R&W took control.

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Post by 26may1989 »

And IHH, can you PLEASE stop writing in capitals?? It's bloody irritating, especially when I find much of what you post interesting!

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