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tasha7 wrote:I'm struggling to remember a single goal we conceded that could be attributed to one of his mistakes.
The own goal against Chelsea?
Keane's goal for Liverpool?
The penner he gave away for City's third goal and if I'm harsh not tracking Ireland for their first in the 3-0 loss?
I felt that Djourou had to get a foot on the cross from Bosingwa as if he didn't intercept it, it was destined for the net with Kalou was following up.
The Keane goal was a hoof from defence, the entire team was pushing high up the field and to give Djourou full responsibility for it is very harsh.
But for not tracking Ireland, fair comment.
As a third choice CB I am quite satisfied with him coming in to replace TV and Gallas. But with this unfortunate news I am quite worried with our remaining cover for this position. Senderos, not good enough to be in the team last year being sent out to AC Milan and Silvestre, a player not good enough for Man Utd but good enough for Arsenal? I think not.
A decent CB has been on my shopping list since Sulzeer left in 2006.
The penner he gave away for City's third goal and if I'm harsh not tracking Ireland for their first in the 3-0 loss?
As others have pointed out, I don't think you can call the Chavs goal a mistake, it was the correct decision for him to try to intercept the ball and it was unlucky it ended up in the back of the net. In fact, the way Djourou kept on going, kept his head up and didn't put another foot wrong for the rest of the game was very impressive and was the first time he demonstrated his big match temperament.
The Robbie Keane goal wasn't really his fault either, it came from our own throw in, Clichy threw it straight to one of their players who hoofed it forward first time and that naturally caught both Djourou and Billy slightly out of position.
Fair enough for the City game, but one poor game in 15 in your first real season in the Premiership is pretty good and I think if he hadn't had this injury he'd be more than good enough cover for our two first choice players, given that he can play either role - he has the height and the natural inclination to press the ball and he's also quick enough (he's our quickest CB, according to Wenger) to play the covering role.
The own goal at chelsea i blame almunia he had the ball in his hands prior to the goal and instead of holding onto it and letting our players regroup he threw the ball out quickly when our players werent expecting it to give away possesion to chelsea ball passed back into square djourou puts the ball in his own net.
I know it wasn't me, I had to stop that shit a while ago.
A player scores an own goal and it isn't a mistake, just bad luck.
I commend you guys for backing the guy but as Ed Exley so expertly pointed out in LA Confidential,
A hooker cut to look like Lana Turner is still a hooker.
Ain't no biggie, the legendary Tony Adams scored an og on his debut, but you can only go so far.
watch it again, he owns that mistake, if like me you define a mistake in this case as switching off and not being 100% focused. And Clichy doesn't actually throw it straight to a Liverpool player but now I'm nit picking. I'm not really down on the guy it's just that players who are really going to go far should have shown a lot more by this stage in their career's. For me Djourou has shown very little so has a lot to do to make up.
I know it wasn't me, I had to stop that shit a while ago.
A player scores an own goal and it isn't a mistake, just bad luck.
I commend you guys for backing the guy but as Ed Exley so expertly pointed out in LA Confidential,
A hooker cut to look like Lana Turner is still a hooker.
Ain't no biggie, the legendary Tony Adams scored an og on his debut, but you can only go so far.
watch it again, he owns that mistake, if like me you define a mistake in this case as switching off and not being 100% focused. And Clichy doesn't actually throw it straight to a Liverpool player but now I'm nit picking. I'm not really down on the guy it's just that players who are really going to go far should have shown a lot more by this stage in their career's. For me Djourou has shown very little so has a lot to do to make up.
I was there 2-2 v Sunderland, if memory serves me correct...
I honestly can't believe anyone can think Tweety and Senderos are "quality in depth" or good enough as long term options at PL level. Tweety is so far past his sell-by date he should have a health warning on his back instead of a number.
Senderos, while being an honest hard fighting CB, is just not good enough technically. He is too slow, is easily turned by a striker dropping off his shoulder and he is also too easily bullied into fatal mistakes (Dogbreath being the most obvious example) and believe me if I've learned one thing in watching football for nearly 40 years, and playing it for over 35 years, it's that if one powerful striker bullies a CB out of a game every other powerful striker will see it and do the same - they are like predators picking off the lame calf in the herd.
At best Senderos is a short term back up to cover minor knocks to first choice CB's while Tweety should have been shipped out in the summer.
DB10GOONER wrote:I honestly can't believe anyone can think Tweety and Senderos are "quality in depth" or good enough as long term options at PL level. Tweety is so far past his sell-by date he should have a health warning on his back instead of a number.
Senderos, while being an honest hard fighting CB, is just not good enough technically. He is too slow, is easily turned by a striker dropping off his shoulder and he is also too easily bullied into fatal mistakes (Dogbreath being the most obvious example) and believe me if I've learned one thing in watching football for nearly 40 years, and playing it for over 35 years, it's that if one powerful striker bullies a CB out of a game every other powerful striker will see it and do the same - they are like predators picking off the lame calf in the herd.
At best Senderos is a short term back up to cover minor knocks to first choice CB's while Tweety should have been shipped out in the summer.
I've never rated him even in his pre-'geriatric' days..
I know it wasn't me, I had to stop that shit a while ago.
A player scores an own goal and it isn't a mistake, just bad luck.
I commend you guys for backing the guy but as Ed Exley so expertly pointed out in LA Confidential,
A hooker cut to look like Lana Turner is still a hooker.
Ain't no biggie, the legendary Tony Adams scored an og on his debut, but you can only go so far.
watch it again, he owns that mistake, if like me you define a mistake in this case as switching off and not being 100% focused. And Clichy doesn't actually throw it straight to a Liverpool player but now I'm nit picking. I'm not really down on the guy it's just that players who are really going to go far should have shown a lot more by this stage in their career's. For me Djourou has shown very little so has a lot to do to make up.
I don't know who's been smoking what, but you can't even see Clichy's throw-in in that clip!
and you'll see the 1st Liverpool player wins the header straight from the throw-in, the 2nd one hoofs the knockdown first time and you'll see from the replay that Djourou is advancing towards play when it happens, while Keane is stationary so is able to sprint towards our goal as soon as the ball is launched forward while Djourou has to turn and recover.
Pass the spliff please, I'll have some of what you're smoking.
