IM STARTING TO BELIEVE

LDB · Post by **LDB** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:38 pm

flash gunner wrote:
Boomer wrote:There is another theory which I'm mention before. Wenger only tends to be able to mount a challenge in a season leading up to a major international championship.

Wenger is a Coach, not manager, but I'm sure we all know that he loves being on the training ground with he's players. I'm sure he once said "Games get in the way of what he loves doing best"

So of course this mean that the summer before will be tournament free. Like this summer just past. He's had a summer to prepare and get he's players ready physically and mentally. Where as next summer the World cup will distrupt AW's pre-season prep.
Not sure i go with this one. If this is true then it must show up big frailties in Wenger if by not having a good pre-season he cant produce a winning team when others can???? I just dont think thats true

and Brazilian no offence with my first post just think youre mental

Insanity and genius are but two sides of the same coin !

xDAVEYx · Post by **xDAVEYx** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:52 pm

the difference between the 2 is measured only by success

Post by **brazilianGOONER** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:59 pm

LDB wrote:
flash gunner wrote: and Brazilian no offence with my first post just think youre mental
Insanity and genius are but two sides of tHe same coin !

LDB, sir, you are a very smart man

Post by **flash gunner** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:59 pm

LDB wrote:
flash gunner wrote:
Boomer wrote:There is another theory which I'm mention before. Wenger only tends to be able to mount a challenge in a season leading up to a major international championship.

Wenger is a Coach, not manager, but I'm sure we all know that he loves being on the training ground with he's players. I'm sure he once said "Games get in the way of what he loves doing best"

So of course this mean that the summer before will be tournament free. Like this summer just past. He's had a summer to prepare and get he's players ready physically and mentally. Where as next summer the World cup will distrupt AW's pre-season prep.
Not sure i go with this one. If this is true then it must show up big frailties in Wenger if by not having a good pre-season he cant produce a winning team when others can???? I just dont think thats true

and Brazilian no offence with my first post just think youre mental
Insanity and genius are but two sides of the same coin !

Hope youre not refering to Brazilian?

Insane yes genius no

Post by **brazilianGOONER** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:02 pm

xDAVEYx wrote:the difference between the 2 is measured only by success

well, i was the right back in the gremio under-12s team that won the gaucho state championship in 1996.

i'm a genius, then!!!

(not to mention the guararapes street tournament of long-distance spitting, which i won a couple of times!)

Boomer · Post by **Boomer** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:16 pm

REBEL GOONER wrote:
xDAVEYx wrote:
REBEL GOONER wrote:
Boomer wrote:There is another theory which I'm mention before. Wenger only tends to be able to mount a challenge in a season leading up to a major international championship.

Wenger is a Coach, not manager, but I'm sure we all know that he loves being on the training ground with he's players. I'm sure he once said "Games get in the way of what he loves doing best"

So of course this mean that the summer before will be tournament free. Like this summer just past. He's had a summer to prepare and get he's players ready physically and mentally. Where as next summer the World cup will distrupt AW's pre-season prep.

last 2 were
world cup in 2006
euros in 2008
we won fuck all before and after
yeah but 98, 02 and 04 were all big tournament years...

yes but look at the players we had at the club in each of those 3 years.

my point was at boomers post that for the last 2 big tournaments arsenal done jack shit before or after so disputing his theory
quote]
Reb, never said we'd won something in each of those year. My actuall comments were "able to mount a challenge".

If we remember 08 was the season we lost the league. Several points clear then crumbled.

06 was the CL final year.

Gooner Jim · Post by **Gooner Jim** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:01 pm

Il expect a top 4 finish, anything else would be immense

norfbankN16 · Post by **norfbankN16** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:15 pm

Gooner Jim wrote:Il expect a top 4 finish, anything else would be immense

whilst coming out top is still going to be a tall order i belive coming 4th would be a major disapointment based on the other 'top 4' sides performances. if the scousers finish above us i would be gutted. if another team does then i'd be even more gutted. truth is we need to show our mettle against chelsea, united and the scousers in our remaining fixtures against them. so far we've had united, played well and lost - must do better.

Gunner4LiF3 · Post by **Gunner4LiF3** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:24 am

Hello all!

Iv been scanning the forum for a long time, and decided this to be the perfect time to come out of hiding

When the season started I didnt have much hope but the way we started the season has been nothing but brilliant.

Fabregas has grown up so much,

Alot of our players have stepped up. Wenger was right.

MutleyGooner · Post by **MutleyGooner** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:29 am

Stop kidding yourselves.............It aint gonna happen, maybe next year

augie · Post by **augie** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:54 am

Boomer wrote:There is another theory which I'm mention before. Wenger only tends to be able to mount a challenge in a season leading up to a major international championship.

Wenger is a Coach, not manager, but I'm sure we all know that he loves being on the training ground with he's players. I'm sure he once said "Games get in the way of what he loves doing best"

So of course this mean that the summer before will be tournament free. Like this summer just past. He's had a summer to prepare and get he's players ready physically and mentally. Where as next summer the World cup will distrupt AW's pre-season prep.

Cannot agree with that boomer tbh. If anything wenger is the complete opposite to a coach - he doesnt coach tactics, he doesnt really coach formations as he allows and trusts his players to go where they see fit and he sure as hell dont coach set pieces either defensively or attacking

I would actually say that wenger is like one of those cult leaders who sell their ideas of a better life if you live his way more than he is a manager or coach

Boomer · Post by **Boomer** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:55 pm

augie wrote:
Boomer wrote:There is another theory which I'm mention before. Wenger only tends to be able to mount a challenge in a season leading up to a major international championship.

Wenger is a Coach, not manager, but I'm sure we all know that he loves being on the training ground with he's players. I'm sure he once said "Games get in the way of what he loves doing best"

So of course this mean that the summer before will be tournament free. Like this summer just past. He's had a summer to prepare and get he's players ready physically and mentally. Where as next summer the World cup will distrupt AW's pre-season prep.

Cannot agree with that boomer tbh. If anything wenger is the complete opposite to a coach - he doesnt coach tactics, he doesnt really coach formations as he allows and trusts his players to go where they see fit and he sure as hell dont coach set pieces either defensively or attacking I would actually say that wenger is like one of those cult leaders who sell their ideas of a better life if you live his way more than he is a manager or coach

Maybe is something else then!

I see your point but then neither is he a manager of players!

All I know is that he loves being on that training field 'developing' players mentally and physically.

Gunnersaurus · Post by **Gunnersaurus** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:57 pm

augie wrote:I should also point out that we have played only 2 of our rivals for the top 4 places and we have lost both games so our "great run" that we are on is based on games against average premier league sides and poor champs lge teams - a bit similar to last seasons great unbeaten run if you like except a few more wins instead of draws

United are fucked then seeing that they lost to Chelsea and Loserpool.

northbankbren · Post by **northbankbren** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:10 pm

Haven't been on here for a while so have to put my self as always firmly in the REALIST camp.

Because this really can be our year, im not saying 100% we will win something this year, but it looks more likely than the last few seasons and were playing some real free flowing football too.

Long way to go, but im optimistic about this season.