Cesc staying for life

Bergkamp95 · Post by **Bergkamp95** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 9:59 pm

Love to say that Cesc is going to stay with Arsenal for life its good to hear it but i dont think its going to happen its everyboadys dream to play with there boyhood team at some stage at there career but i reckon arsenal will get the best of him if he decides to leave that is.

TheOne2Smooth · Post by **TheOne2Smooth** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 11:36 pm

U.F.G Anfield '89 wrote:just went on ebay and bid on a pack of razorblades and a my chemical romance CD, this thread has really bummed me out!

your not wrong if I ever do take my life, no doubt looking on my PC you will see a post from Dr Doom aka augie ! lighten up. Only Cesc knows where he will be playing in the future

26may1989 · Post by **26may1989** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:15 am

tonysaunders wrote:
augie wrote:Sorry 2 smooth but I have to respond to your last commentin which you stated that Arsenal are big enough to have world class players and I would like to ask you in who's eyes are we big enough ? In the fans eyes most certainly we are but in the eyes of the players, the media and even the boardroom ? I dont think so. Every single time the barca's or real madrids of this world come knocking our players heads are turned and the commitment of the players in question slides and we end up selling them(on the cheap I might add). The media will always big up the likes of the above clubs and even manure & the scousers above us so they dont see us as a big enough club to hold worldclass players either. Lastly our beloved board Why is it these people never tell the big clubs that are sniffing around our players to sling their hook ? Why is it that they never go after any of these clubs when they illegally approach one of our players ? Seems to me that they are intimated by these "big clubs" and cower down to them so again this is not the attitude of a big club.

Much as we all like to think we support a massive club good enough to stand toe to toe with europes finest I think deep down we know that we need to win a champs lge or 2 before we will rightfully feel that we belong.
Not for the first time, I agree 100% with Augie. Couldn't have put it better myself. I reckon we'll get a few more years out of Cesc and then he'll move on. If he wants to go home, you can't deny him that. We should all just be grateful that we got to see a player of his talent play for our Club and enjoy it while he's here!

I agree with augie too but it's probably almost the first time I have... I reckon Cesc will stay with us for another 5 years or so and then (when he will still be only 25) will join Barca. Hearing him say (Henry-like) that he wants to stay until the end of his career only underlines the point.

But that's not pessimism, that's just recognising that footballers have very short careers and will want to achieve a range of things in those careers. If I were Cesc, I would want to play for Barca at some point in my life if I could.

As for what this signifies about Arsenal, I've taken great pleasure seeing Arsenal over-perform year after year. Older fans remember how crap we were in the late 70s to late 80s, and how dismal it was being an Arsenal fan then, so seeing what has been achieved in the last 10 years is fantastic. Although the size of the fanbase and the club have grown in recent years, we're still smaller than Man U and Liverpool. Ashburton could change that over time but not yet.

The true European elite is Barca, Real, Juve, Milan, Inter, Bayern Munich, Man U and Liverpool. If we can battle our way into that group over a period of years, great, but let's not pretend we're there now. We should just enjoy what we have, including having one of the great midfielders playing today.

Post by **Chippy** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:14 am

At the risk of being accused of being completey delusional, he's said it more clearly in the Sun today.

http://www.football365.com/story/0,1703 ... 55,00.html

I say again I think it will depend how we are doing v Barca. Le boss must have ambitions to win back to back titles, CL a few times, and even try to emulate the Manure treble. If we are doing that sort of thing in 2/3 years then why would Cesc move, especially as he seems to really love London.

I can dream

Post by **REB** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:27 am

allways good to read a positive article chippy,,
but and i really do hope he means it,, im supporting arsenal now 34 years and if i had a Â£1 for every player that i've read saying the same thing and i mean from all clubs

well you get what i mean

but one might buck that stat and lets hope its cesc

aw · Post by aw » Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:04 am

Chippy wrote:At the risk of being accused of being completey delusional, he's said it more clearly in the Sun today.

http://www.football365.com/story/0,1703 ... 55,00.html

I say again I think it will depend how we are doing v Barca. Le boss must have ambitions to win back to back titles, CL a few times, and even try to emulate the Manure treble. If we are doing that sort of thing in 2/3 years then why would Cesc move, especially as he seems to really love London.

I can dream

Hope your right!!

augie · Post by **augie** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:23 am

On this particular point 2 Smooth I dont feel I am being Dr Doom and yet again I feel that I am being pulled back into the whole being realistic v pessimistic debate. Anyway I too feel that from Cesc's point ov view the lure of his boyhood club must be huge and I cannot blame him for that. I truely hope he stays for another 10 years but if he doesnt I will still feel fortunate to have seen the most talented player of his age ever to play in the premiership

Post by **T.S** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:30 am

TheOne2Smooth wrote:...Dr Doom aka augie ! lighten up.

Talk about irony!

augie · Post by **augie** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:16 am

Good one TS

I never even thought about 2 Smooths recent troubled spell but the good thing about it is that he friends here that cared about him during that time and has now come back to his true self. Not sure if thats such a good thing though

Only joking 2 smooth

Post by **DB10GOONER** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:32 am

augie wrote: Every single time the barca's or real madrids of this world come knocking our players heads are turned and the commitment of the players in question slides and we end up selling them(on the cheap I might add). The media will always big up the likes of the above clubs and even manure & the scousers above us so they dont see us as a big enough club to hold worldclass players either. Lastly our beloved board Why is it these people never tell the big clubs that are sniffing around our players to sling their hook ? Why is it that they never go after any of these clubs when they illegally approach one of our players ? Seems to me that they are intimated by these "big clubs" and cower down to them so again this is not the attitude of a big club.

Jaysus, I actually agree with augie on this one...

Just on the point above; I think another problem we have is snobbish behaviour by the board. They seem to think that all players should want to play for Arsenal more than we want them to play for us, and if they show a sniff of not being totally committed then it's the old "get rid of him" syndrome. It's as if the board would consider it vulgar to be seen "chasing after" a player...

augie · Post by **augie** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:46 am

DB if you are surprised by the fact that you agree with me here you can imagine how I feel

Seriously why do some members appear reluctant to agree with me on any subject

Have I been secretly blacklisted for my opinions

It shouldnt be the case cos I am a pillar of sense and my intelligence knows no bounds

Post by **REB** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:59 am

augie aka dr doom

guess some people like to think that every thing is rosey in the garden of ashburtan and that we are the biggest club in the world,, and dont like to hear reason and fact

most of the time i agree with your points even thou i am a optimist and you are defo a pessimist

but i do see the big picture when it comes to arsenal and know the difference between wild optimism and the facts,,
but hey life aint so bad at the moment

back on top tonight with a 4-1 victory and the blond one making great saves and staying on his line

some good news senderos still out

Galasso · Post by **Galasso** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:06 pm

augie wrote:DB if you are surprised by the fact that you agree with me here you can imagine how I feel

Seriously why do some members appear reluctant to agree with me on any subject Have I been secretly blacklisted for my opinions It shouldnt be the case cos I am a pillar of sense and my intelligence knows no bounds

Ahhhhhh....I see it now - it's been staring me in the face all the time---

all
utterances
give
inteliigent
explanation

I'm a split personality so I like to be pessimistic but don't invade my patch!

Post by **DB10GOONER** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:47 pm

augie wrote:DB if you are surprised by the fact that you agree with me here you can imagine how I feel

Seriously why do some members appear reluctant to agree with me on any subject Have I been secretly blacklisted for my opinions It shouldnt be the case cos I am a pillar of sense and my intelligence knows no bounds

I was only kidding augie, but you knew that...

I agree with a lot of what you post on here to be honest, particularly with regard to the board. On that subject, I just think they are the lesser of two evils.

I'm actually a bit of a pessamist (realist) myself when it comes to Arsenal. As I say - bitter past experiences!!

I keep thinking I'm gonna wake up and the last ten years won't have happened, it was all a dream and the horrible reality will be that Bruce Rioch has managed us into relegation, the spuds have won 3 CL's, we are currently managed by a combo of Terry Venables & Martin Hayes and our average gate is 22000...

Jaysus... it could so easily have happened.

Post by **T.S** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:42 pm

DB10GOONER wrote:I keep thinking I'm gonna wake up and the last ten years won't have happened, it was all a dream and the horrible reality will be that Bruce Rioch has managed us into relegation, the spuds have won 3 CL's, we are currently managed by a combo of Terry Venables & Martin Hayes and our average gate is 22000...

Good to see the damage sustained to your spinal chord a while ago hasnâ€™t affected your typing ability, DB. Still, might want to stay away from IHHâ€™s herbal remedies in the future.

Just say no!