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I Hate Hleb wrote:Funny that because he speaks highly of you!! :lol: :lol: :wink:
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Don't waste your breath IHH, some people are just intent on and almost obsessive in finding the smallest things to slag off walcott with. Evident in the childish moniker of 'walnutt' given to him by some on here :roll:

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Donaldo,

Maybe it's because he played a not insignificant part in the qualification process and was always picked in Fabio's squads prior to the World Cup? :roll: :banghead: :lol: :wink:

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Welling Gooner wrote:Walcott is poor, if he wasn't quick he wouldn't be a pro.

He wouldn't even be lower league.

Poor touch, poor awareness, poor vision, poor final ball
And if Tiger Woods wasnt so handy with a golf club he wouldnt be a golf pro. What a stupid thing to say lol.

And as others have said, Theo was obviously asked about the WC, adn as it was built up so massively for such a huge time, with a lot of pressure on players to be passionate about their country, he obviously just wanted to show the likes of you and I that he gives a sh**. Saying being left out was the biggest disappointment is no suprise.. after all most people expected him to be picked as he played often, so to not be picked makes it worse. ITS THE WORLD CUP FFS! And its not like he's been involved in losing a CL final or anything so he has very little to compare it to.

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I Hate Hleb wrote:Donaldo,

Maybe it's because he played a not insignificant part in the qualification process and was always picked in Fabio's squads prior to the World Cup? :roll: :banghead: :lol: :wink:
Other than Croatia away when has he played well for England?.Capello picked him for all three of the friendlies before the world cup and he was shit in all of them.

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donaldo wrote:
I Hate Hleb wrote:Donaldo,

Maybe it's because he played a not insignificant part in the qualification process and was always picked in Fabio's squads prior to the World Cup? :roll: :banghead: :lol: :wink:
Other than Croatia away when has he played well for England?.Capello picked him for all three of the friendlies before the world cup and he was shit in all of them.
Name me ANY England International player that has had stand out performances recently?

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nino_rojo wrote:
donaldo wrote:
I Hate Hleb wrote:Donaldo,

Maybe it's because he played a not insignificant part in the qualification process and was always picked in Fabio's squads prior to the World Cup? :roll: :banghead: :lol: :wink:
Other than Croatia away when has he played well for England?.Capello picked him for all three of the friendlies before the world cup and he was shit in all of them.
Name me ANY England International player that has had stand out performances recently?
None. But some of them do play well for their club sides unlike Walnutt

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Fair point, but I think its unfair to use International performances to prove his worth (or not) at Arsenal.

I am in agreement that up until now he has performed well below expectation. I still see the potential though, so lets see how he gets on this year. He's said he is going to "get out there and show people what he can do" so lets see it and judge him then. Fingers crossed he will have an injury free season to see if that really IS an excuse.

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donaldo wrote:
I Hate Hleb wrote:Donaldo,

Maybe it's because he played a not insignificant part in the qualification process and was always picked in Fabio's squads prior to the World Cup? :roll: :banghead: :lol: :wink:
Other than Croatia away when has he played well for England?.Capello picked him for all three of the friendlies before the world cup and he was shit in all of them.
It's not the fact that he played brilliantly all campaign - although a hat-trick in a difficult and important away game in Croatia shouldn't be taken lightly - but that he had been involved in almost all the squads (when he wasn't injured or representing the U21) picked by Capello before the WC. Hence, him being eventually left out of the final squad was a surprise to most, despite his poor form.

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I wonder if being dropped for the world cup might be the kick up the arse that makes TheoTheo a proper player? We can hope, I suppose, but I have my doubts TBH...

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DB10GOONER wrote:I wonder if being dropped for the world cup might be the kick up the arse that makes TheoTheo a proper player? We can hope, I suppose, but I have my doubts TBH...

I'll second that.

It used to be that you play well and regular for your team, you have a good chance to play for your country.

Does anyone on here remember Walcott playing well and regularly for Arsenal last season ?

This isn't some anti Walcott point, it is alluding to a fact that some seem to think incidental.

But the most obvious point is that one that Walcott misses entirely himself.

If he just concerntrated on Arsenal and gave us everything he could on the training ground and on the pitch come match days, all the other, including INGERLUND would actually follow from that.

It would also have the benefit of assisting us, which is what some of us are really interested in rather than the England team, which on my take is secondary - at best - to Arsenal.

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Arsenal is DEFINITELY a priority for me above the England team. I'd actually say I'm an Arsenal fan before I'm an Englishman. I chose to be an Arsenal fan and I'm damn proud of it! And I actually agree with you, Rob, that Theo should just focus on Arsenal, and all else will follow. You make a good point. Hoepfully now that the WC is over he can do that, although I seriously doubt that will happen if he is chosen to play against Hungary on Wednesday.

I do think though that a lot of the criticism comes from fans who feel let down by Theo, which I can understand. Its not abuse for the sake of it. In a similar way to some peopels reaction to Fabregas supposedly not being at members day. Abuse was thrown around, until they realised he was there and then it was (mostly) taken back.

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It seems to me that people are standing up for theo on the basis of one hat-trick or worse still on the basis that he might turn out to be a good player :roll: Facts are that he has done fcuk all for either club or country to date and the fact that he was in all capello's squads up to that point doesnt mean that he deserved to be there then either. I will always argue that if it wasnt for the fact that he is english the fans and everybody else would have written him off by now :roll:

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This thread needs a good ol' youtube comp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukfBVI0EYp4

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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augie wrote:It seems to me that people are standing up for theo on the basis of one hat-trick or worse still on the basis that he might turn out to be a good player :roll: Facts are that he has done fcuk all for either club or country to date and the fact that he was in all capello's squads up to that point doesnt mean that he deserved to be there then either. I will always argue that if it wasnt for the fact that he is english the fans and everybody else would have written him off by now :roll:

The lad's 21 for fecks sake!!! :banghead: And even with all his faults, Theo's scored a World Cup qualifying hat-trick (the youngest Englishman ever) and scored in a Cup Final - neither of which Henry done for France or us at anything like the same age (and when it comes to Cup Finals, just never). :banghead:

Now there are no guarantees that Theo will improve enough over the next few years to even be mentioned in the same breath as Henry as an Arsenal great - indeed, he's very unlikely to - but let's not write him off already. :roll: :roll: :oops:

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Look at it this way:

He ain't going to play any worse than he did the last couple of seasons so he'll be a useful player in the squad.

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