Would our fans ever stage a boycott

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Would our fans ever stage a boycott

Post by Irish Gooner »

Before this thread is locked I want to stress this does not fit into the ticketing thread IMO.

I go to about 7-9 games a year which is not as much as I want but I cant afford the total cost of going over as much as I used to.

Anyway I read the disgrace about our ticketing policy in the Mail today. I find it bloody disgusting they would even think about 100 pound tickets, they have some fucking nerve.

I've looked around at other forums who are disgusted at the way football is going, and OUR CLUB is leading the way in terms of PLASTIC, CORPORATE, ANTI FAN agendas.

This is a disgrace we can now be charged more money to watch this sack of shit side and a manager who now seems to be concentrating on becoming a politician, then in previous years with a better atmosphere, and sides that shit all over this current mob in every possible manner.
And a manager to be proud of, who I like to call "Old Wenger".

I've contacted the AISA our supposed rep with the club and got this reply

Ticket pricing is something we are discussing with the club. And this is another thing that we will bring to the table. We fully understand the cost issue to many supporters ( myself included ) . One argument that comes from the club is that pretty much every game is a sellout and there are still 40,000 on the season ticket waiting list. No other club in the premiership is like this , including Manchester United. ManU did not sell all their season tickets this year. Fact. Until this happens at Arsenal I cannot see to much change.
Having said that the club are looking at realigning some price to make it cheaper for some area's of the ground. Don't hold your breath on this though as it is only being looked at and may never happen.
We will continue to pressure the club though on behalf of all our members.
The waiting list thing is total charade, we know that. But as we know the attendances being so good mean we will continute to be robbed blind as supporters for this sub par side, deluded manager and squad of overpaid arrogant tossers.

As supporters our club is known for being slow to react to these situations. But I ask, will in your own opinions:

A) A boycott ever happen at this club considering, the amount of JCLs?

B) Is this a feasible idea, for even this season?

C) Would it be a wake up call to the club ?

I personally believed if this idea is timed correctly, that it can be achieved.

We will be out of the title race a long time by April, 3rd place etc is meaningless to me in that we will not see change.

Looking at the fixtures, got Blackburn at home on the 2nd of April, could something be organised for such a game.

Blackburn are the most boring dull shite side in this league, a meaningless match, which would help matters. A boycott of this game, which if all the stops were pulled out could an attendance of around 40k what with their shit support.

Can we do this?

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I totally agree with you but I feel its fighting a lost cause. I would definately not turn up to show my anger at how much I am paying for my ST but I know we'd only have a few thousand which would do the same and wouldn't work. Sometimes when you can blatently see there are loads of seats empty, the attendance is 60 odd thousand.

We need something more vocal such as a demonstration outside the entrance or Highbury House when Hill-Wood is having his prawn sarnies at lunch time.

The club won't change it until attendances drop and that is not going to be anytime soon because we are in the capital along with all the tourists who will be ushered to our seats.

I wonder if in a couple of years when the debt is paid off and we are generating profit, if prices will drop because surely the profits will be covering the shit that our STs pay for? Like I said in the ticketing thread, somebody told me that the prawn sandwich circle and corporate boxes generates more income than all the gate reciepts for a match @ Highbury.

We may have a wage budget where we don't pay over X amount for players, but we are rewarding the shower of shit that we do have with very big contracts therefore the collective budget is higher.

I really don't think people like AISA are going to get us anywhere in the near future because they don't want to upset the club but that just isn't good enough.

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Post by Irish Gooner »

Agreed mate AISA, from what I've seen won't do anything about it.

And on the chance of decreasing prices when we make profits, we already have record profits mate, the debt is nearly gone.

No chance they wiil decrease, they will even increase further if anything.

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Post by M-50 »

I would offer support to a protest.

I think one of the more 'bigger' fixtures would be better served though.

Man City at home in January would be more ideal.

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M-50 wrote:I would offer support to a protest.

I think one of the more 'bigger' fixtures would be better served though.

Man City at home in January would be more ideal.
A protest is a protest but I'm fucked if I miss that.

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Post by northbankbren »

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeah rite, it will acheive a lot wont it :roll: :lol:

Take a step back, a deep breath and look at the table.

YESTERDAY WAS HORRIBLE.

Today is today. I havent actually posted an opinion on yesterday until now, it was shit and disgraceful and Im still sick about it.

But were 3rd only 2 point off top.


BOYCOTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????????? :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Get a grip man. :roll:

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I totally support the idea of letting the board, the manager and the players know the depth of frustration and anger amongst the fans but I would modify your idea. I cannot see fans willing to pay for tickets and not bother to show up, especially in this climate, so I would prefer the idea of a mass protest either before the game or after the game. It is unreasonable to expect fans who might only get to a few games a season to pass up the chance to attend a game so any demonstration would have to consider that point.

Personally I would rather organise a demonstration outside the ground pre game with fans refusing to go in for the first ten minutes of the game or something like that. Maybe some fans groups could hand out fliers to fans at the turnstyles asking them to refuse to purchase any beverages or food in the ground for 1 match ?

One thing I am sure about is that things should not be allowed to continue as they are. There is no ambition from the board to lift the club back up to a higher level as long as the dollars are rolling in and therefore no pressure on wenger to buck up his ideas which of course filters down to the players who are under no pressure to succeed. We as fans shouldnt be expected to continue to shell out big money without having the right to question things. Is there any other type of business in the world where the customers opinions are so blatantly ignored and disregarded ? Bren yet again points out our current league position and how close we are to the chanvs and mancs but for me that is only looking at half the story - we as a club should surely set our own standards and should be responsible for at least meeting those standards on a consistant basis. If we then do meet those standards but should fall short of winning the trophies then we can at least say that we have done all that we can do but right now the board, the manager and the players cannot say that and I dont think that is acceptable :evil:

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SWLGooner wrote:
M-50 wrote:I would offer support to a protest.

I think one of the more 'bigger' fixtures would be better served though.

Man City at home in January would be more ideal.
A protest is a protest but I'm fucked if I miss that.
Yeah you are right mate. I should have mentioned a protest prior to the game.

Augie has summed it up perfect and to his idea I agree.

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northbankbren wrote::lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeah rite, it will acheive a lot wont it :roll: :lol:

Take a step back, a deep breath and look at the table.

YESTERDAY WAS HORRIBLE.

Today is today. I havent actually posted an opinion on yesterday until now, it was shit and disgraceful and Im still sick about it.

But were 3rd only 2 point off top.


BOYCOTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????????? :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Get a grip man. :roll:
In fairness to this thread any protest against the club is with regards to a ticket price hike.

So telling people to get a grip is a little harsh. We've every right, within reason, to vent our fustration in relation to higher prices. It's better to have something in place if that scenario does arise rather than have 10,000 angry fans voicing anger in a hostile manner.

Look at our very own country in relation to ticket prices. Everyone complains but no one is willing to take it to the next level. The IRFU even jacked up prices for the Argentina game next week why? because they've got away with it for years. I hope the same won't happen to Arsenal and if I can be any help in organising a sensible protest then I will.

A friendly match in Lansdowne Road 15 years ago would be sold out. I think I used to pay £10 maybe £15. The same ticket last week against Norway was €50 and with stadium less than half full, the tannoy didn't even have the balls to announce the attendance. Embarrassing or what.

If we allow a ticket price hike at Arsenal, the small % of passion that's left in the stadium will be gone and as Dan highlighted via a post in another thread, Arsenal games will turn into a 'show' like in Las Vegas. An exhibition with players getting paid vast sums and the outcome of the match irrelevant. Football is increasingly looking that way, don't you think?

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Yeah I'm gonna fcukin turn up late, piss off to get some overpriced monkey shit ten mins before half time, return to my seat well after the resumption of play, do the crossword in silence throughout the rest of the match and scarper miles before the end.





That'll fcukin show em. :twisted:

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Post by Irish Gooner »

northbankbren wrote::lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeah rite, it will acheive a lot wont it :roll: :lol:

Take a step back, a deep breath and look at the table.

YESTERDAY WAS HORRIBLE.

Today is today. I havent actually posted an opinion on yesterday until now, it was shit and disgraceful and Im still sick about it.

But were 3rd only 2 point off top.


BOYCOTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????????? :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Get a grip man. :roll:
As M-50 has pointed out this is not all to do with on field matters. It's a combination of on field matters and off field matters that are sending this club on a collision course.

The prices now are tiple what they were a few years ago. Are the team as good as sides like the 98 double side, no of course not.

And with the prices now set for yet another increase, it is unacceptable, many fans cannot afford to go anymore, others choose not to due to on field matters.

Even the rosetinters should be able to see we are being taken for a ride yet again by the club. The only way this will change if the attendance drop and we put our foot down. Of course the JCL's will still lap it up as long as we are in the top 4, they wont be here when we fall out, it will be off to Spurs, Chelsea and Man City for them.[/b]

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augie wrote:I totally support the idea of letting the board, the manager and the players know the depth of frustration and anger amongst the fans but I would modify your idea. I cannot see fans willing to pay for tickets and not bother to show up, especially in this climate, so I would prefer the idea of a mass protest either before the game or after the game. It is unreasonable to expect fans who might only get to a few games a season to pass up the chance to attend a game so any demonstration would have to consider that point.

Personally I would rather organise a demonstration outside the ground pre game with fans refusing to go in for the first ten minutes of the game or something like that. Maybe some fans groups could hand out fliers to fans at the turnstyles asking them to refuse to purchase any beverages or food in the ground for 1 match ?

One thing I am sure about is that things should not be allowed to continue as they are. There is no ambition from the board to lift the club back up to a higher level as long as the dollars are rolling in and therefore no pressure on wenger to buck up his ideas which of course filters down to the players who are under no pressure to succeed. We as fans shouldnt be expected to continue to shell out big money without having the right to question things. Is there any other type of business in the world where the customers opinions are so blatantly ignored and disregarded ? Bren yet again points out our current league position and how close we are to the chanvs and mancs but for me that is only looking at half the story - we as a club should surely set our own standards and should be responsible for at least meeting those standards on a consistant basis. If we then do meet those standards but should fall short of winning the trophies then we can at least say that we have done all that we can do but right now the board, the manager and the players cannot say that and I dont think that is acceptable :evil:
I think you are right. We should be setting some standards.

Let us start with the players who have played on saturday. As they are useless we should take them to the Tower of London and lock them up before we hang them on the highest tree you can find in London. That would be setting some new standards. That will teach them.

And the manager will undergo the same as he is of course responsible for every bad mistake a player makes. he should have killed the players himself before coming out on the field.
Maybe our next manager should be given a machine gun so when a player makes a mistake he can be shot at sight. Yeah, let us use this set of standards in the future. Never mind the laws that say you cannot kill anyone. I suggest you organise your protest your self a bit, mate and see how many turn up and follow you. I will keep supporting my players even if they turn out to be human beings after a game and have made mistakes.

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ramon wrote:
augie wrote:I totally support the idea of letting the board, the manager and the players know the depth of frustration and anger amongst the fans but I would modify your idea. I cannot see fans willing to pay for tickets and not bother to show up, especially in this climate, so I would prefer the idea of a mass protest either before the game or after the game. It is unreasonable to expect fans who might only get to a few games a season to pass up the chance to attend a game so any demonstration would have to consider that point.

Personally I would rather organise a demonstration outside the ground pre game with fans refusing to go in for the first ten minutes of the game or something like that. Maybe some fans groups could hand out fliers to fans at the turnstyles asking them to refuse to purchase any beverages or food in the ground for 1 match ?

One thing I am sure about is that things should not be allowed to continue as they are. There is no ambition from the board to lift the club back up to a higher level as long as the dollars are rolling in and therefore no pressure on wenger to buck up his ideas which of course filters down to the players who are under no pressure to succeed. We as fans shouldnt be expected to continue to shell out big money without having the right to question things. Is there any other type of business in the world where the customers opinions are so blatantly ignored and disregarded ? Bren yet again points out our current league position and how close we are to the chanvs and mancs but for me that is only looking at half the story - we as a club should surely set our own standards and should be responsible for at least meeting those standards on a consistant basis. If we then do meet those standards but should fall short of winning the trophies then we can at least say that we have done all that we can do but right now the board, the manager and the players cannot say that and I dont think that is acceptable :evil:
I think you are right. We should be setting some standards.

Let us start with the players who have played on saturday. As they are useless we should take them to the Tower of London and lock them up before we hang them on the highest tree you can find in London. That would be setting some new standards. That will teach them.

And the manager will undergo the same as he is of course responsible for every bad mistake a player makes. he should have killed the players himself before coming out on the field.
Maybe our next manager should be given a machine gun so when a player makes a mistake he can be shot at sight. Yeah, let us use this set of standards in the future. Never mind the laws that say you cannot kill anyone. I suggest you organise your protest your self a bit, mate and see how many turn up and follow you. I will keep supporting my players even if they turn out to be human beings after a game and have made mistakes.
Did you copy and paste that one from the official forum?

I've no problem with fair minded rosetinters but you with your copy and paste, are the most freaky poster on here by along shot.

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eerrm nooo buurrrrrrpp :roll:

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