Value of shirt sponsorship

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Iceman29 wrote:
augie wrote:Personally I am delighted to see that nike's deal runs out at the end of this season and I for one would hope that we would then sign up with adidas after that 8)
Why adidas?
best shirt designs, plus they'll respect the tradition of the club, and the best arsenal shirts have been adidas. 3 reasons mofo 8)

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Iceman29 wrote:
augie wrote:Personally I am delighted to see that nike's deal runs out at the end of this season and I for one would hope that we would then sign up with adidas after that 8)
Why adidas?
Some things in life ain't just about the money. With Adidas we never had a problem with kits in the way that we do with Nike.
Even the crushed banana kit, at the time was bad, but Adidas had the forsight to see it would become legandary. :lol:

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Henry Norris 1913 wrote:
Iceman29 wrote:
augie wrote:Personally I am delighted to see that nike's deal runs out at the end of this season and I for one would hope that we would then sign up with adidas after that 8)
Why adidas?
best shirt designs, plus they'll respect the tradition of the club, and the best arsenal shirts have been adidas. 3 reasons mofo 8)
Agreed

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What about all the cock ups they've done with Chelsea's kit?

However, I can't really see us switching from the Yanks to the Germans to be honest

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flash gunner wrote:
Henry Norris 1913 wrote:
Iceman29 wrote:
augie wrote:Personally I am delighted to see that nike's deal runs out at the end of this season and I for one would hope that we would then sign up with adidas after that 8)
Why adidas?
best shirt designs, plus they'll respect the tradition of the club, and the best arsenal shirts have been adidas. 3 reasons mofo 8)
Agreed
Agree with the last point, but on the second… will they? :? Adidas are no more virtuous than Nike or any other conglomerate. Bottom line for them all is pure & simple to shift as many shirts as possible. Which often means making each kit as different from the last one as they can get away with. Ultimately, surely Arsenal retain the right to veto any kit designs put forward by the manufacturer, so the club’s more to blame for the white away kits, and the Charlton home kit etc.

Nike, Adidas, Bukta :lol:… have no loyalty to the traditions of the club (why would they?), just to their own shareholders. They’re employed/commissioned by the club (who obviously do, or at least should, have a loyalty to those traditions) so that’s where the responsibility lies.

Adidas gave Manure a light(ish) blue away kit in the 90s with the Adidas shell logo plastered all over it. The bruised banana kit looked like some Adidas-sponsored Toblerone had jizzed all over it - although I agree with Boomer nostalgia’s made it a retro classic. The 3 stripes on the sleeves of every single kit they make is branding 101. Whether you think it looks good or not is another matter, but it’s obviously sod all to do with each club’s traditions & everything to do with their own interests. Or are the stripes a symbolic tribute to the stripes Henry Norris earned in the first world war? :lol: Nike’s kits are shite but let’s not kid ourselves Adidas will be any different. All football kits these days are pretty much *****. I've no idea why I'm ranting. :? :oops:

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Iceman29 wrote:What about all the cock ups they've done with Chelsea's kit?

However, I can't really see us switching from the Yanks to the Germans to be honest
Never heard the song?
"History, no history! You still ain't got no history!"

Chelsea's there to be fucked up.

Anyway, the chavs have always had really poor away kits. See Adidas keeping the tradition.
I recall the grey and orange kit. It looked like waking up at 1pm realising you'd fallen asleep infront of the TV back in the 80's.

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Lets get PUMA

Does Bukta even exist anymore?

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Its Up 4 Grabs Now wrote:
flash gunner wrote:
Henry Norris 1913 wrote:
Iceman29 wrote:
augie wrote:Personally I am delighted to see that nike's deal runs out at the end of this season and I for one would hope that we would then sign up with adidas after that 8)
Why adidas?
best shirt designs, plus they'll respect the tradition of the club, and the best arsenal shirts have been adidas. 3 reasons mofo 8)
Agreed
Agree with the last point, but on the second… will they? :? Adidas are no more virtuous than Nike or any other conglomerate. Bottom line for them all is pure & simple to shift as many shirts as possible. Which often means making each kit as different from the last one as they can get away with. Ultimately, surely Arsenal retain the right to veto any kit designs put forward by the manufacturer, so the club’s more to blame for the white away kits, and the Charlton home kit etc.

Nike, Adidas, Bukta :lol:… have no loyalty to the traditions of the club (why would they?), just to their own shareholders. They’re employed/commissioned by the club (who obviously do, or at least should, have a loyalty to those traditions) so that’s where the responsibility lies.

Adidas gave Manure a light(ish) blue away kit in the 90s with the Adidas shell logo plastered all over it. The bruised banana kit looked like some Adidas-sponsored Toblerone had jizzed all over it - although I agree with Boomer nostalgia’s made it a retro classic. The 3 stripes on the sleeves of every single kit they make is branding 101. Whether you think it looks good or not is another matter, but it’s obviously sod all to do with each club’s traditions & everything to do with their own interests. Or are the stripes a symbolic tribute to the stripes Henry Norris earned in the first world war? :lol: Nike’s kits are shite but let’s not kid ourselves Adidas will be any different. All football kits these days are pretty much *****. I've no idea why I'm ranting. :? :oops:
Atleast they stuck to the basics.
Red shirt, white sleeves. And Yellow and blue for the away.

I didn't care much about the V's on the sleeve or 3 stripes coming down from the shoulder. These were minor tweeks and yes they benifited Adidas in blatant logo's amongst the shirt but it was still Arsenal.

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I wonder what the Board make of all of this? :wink:

Perhaps USMartin will be able to shed some light 8)

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Boomer wrote:Atleast they stuck to the basics.
Red shirt, white sleeves. And Yellow and blue for the away.

I didn't care much about the V's on the sleeve or 3 stripes coming down from the shoulder. These were minor tweeks and yes they benifited Adidas in blatant logo's amongst the shirt but it was still Arsenal.
Again though, ultimately the club provide the brief, set the parameters & make the final decision surely? Since we last had Adidas as our manufacturer the game has changed, & the objectives of the board :worried: re: kits with it. It’s a bigger business now & there’s different agendas. All I’m saying is I don’t see Adidas as any more likely to “respect the traditions of the clubâ€

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Its Up 4 Grabs Now wrote:
flash gunner wrote:
Henry Norris 1913 wrote:
Iceman29 wrote:
augie wrote:Personally I am delighted to see that nike's deal runs out at the end of this season and I for one would hope that we would then sign up with adidas after that 8)
Why adidas?
best shirt designs, plus they'll respect the tradition of the club, and the best arsenal shirts have been adidas. 3 reasons mofo 8)
Agreed
Agree with the last point, but on the second… will they? :? Adidas are no more virtuous than Nike or any other conglomerate. Bottom line for them all is pure & simple to shift as many shirts as possible. Which often means making each kit as different from the last one as they can get away with. Ultimately, surely Arsenal retain the right to veto any kit designs put forward by the manufacturer, so the club’s more to blame for the white away kits, and the Charlton home kit etc.

Nike, Adidas, Bukta :lol:… have no loyalty to the traditions of the club (why would they?), just to their own shareholders. They’re employed/commissioned by the club (who obviously do, or at least should, have a loyalty to those traditions) so that’s where the responsibility lies.

Adidas gave Manure a light(ish) blue away kit in the 90s with the Adidas shell logo plastered all over it. The bruised banana kit looked like some Adidas-sponsored Toblerone had jizzed all over it - although I agree with Boomer nostalgia’s made it a retro classic. The 3 stripes on the sleeves of every single kit they make is branding 101. Whether you think it looks good or not is another matter, but it’s obviously sod all to do with each club’s traditions & everything to do with their own interests. Or are the stripes a symbolic tribute to the stripes Henry Norris earned in the first world war? :lol: Nike’s kits are shite but let’s not kid ourselves Adidas will be any different. All football kits these days are pretty much *****. I've no idea why I'm ranting. :? :oops:
I agree they are as likely to stay with the traditions of the club as Nike, the scousers and chavs have had illuminous (or illuminous trimmed) kits recently but after the Nike abominations recently id like to give Adidas a try for a few years

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Its Up 4 Grabs Now wrote:
Boomer wrote:Atleast they stuck to the basics.
Red shirt, white sleeves. And Yellow and blue for the away.

I didn't care much about the V's on the sleeve or 3 stripes coming down from the shoulder. These were minor tweeks and yes they benifited Adidas in blatant logo's amongst the shirt but it was still Arsenal.
Again though, ultimately the club provide the brief, set the parameters & make the final decision surely? Since we last had Adidas as our manufacturer the game has changed, & the objectives of the board :worried: re: kits with it. It’s a bigger business now & there’s different agendas. All I’m saying is I don’t see Adidas as any more likely to “respect the traditions of the clubâ€

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With regards to the Spuds sponsorship deal with Autonomy. ENIC is a major shareholder or at least was a few years back.

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I prefer Nike to Adidas. :oops:

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Iceman29 wrote:
augie wrote:Personally I am delighted to see that nike's deal runs out at the end of this season and I for one would hope that we would then sign up with adidas after that 8)
Why adidas?
They wont give us red sleeves for one.

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