Breaking on SSN - AW press conference

[selsdon]

half that argument will be redundant Sat evening 1991

[Arsenal 1991]

Tottenham forums, i imagine, talking about potential 1/4 final opponents

Arsenal boards still banging on and moaning about refs and being cheated

sad how far things have fallen under Wenger

And dreaming of who we would sign or what changes we would make. Now it’s a mystery loan keeper that has really got us excited.

Of course nothing will change, no signings will happen, the clown will play in goal and we will end up pot less again!

But we were cheated and wenger is a legend for arguing with uefa. That’s all you need to do these days.

I don't think anyone said thats all that is needed by Wenger, I'm just glad hes standing up for himself.

[LDB]

Just watched on ATVO! I tell you what, whatever people say about him not buying this that and the other, I am so proud with the way he acts and talks about us! Absolute model professional, and stands up and protects his players at every single turn!!! He's had a right go at UEFA! Then you look at y*ds and manure manager. One swears on live telly and is a 'right old' wheeler dealer, and the other publicly comes out to beg shrek to stay, sayin he wants away, and kicks boots in his players heads if they lose! Embarrisment!!

One Arsene Wenger!

So you dont see wenger constantly, and I mean in every single fcuking game, remonstrating with the 4th official as embarassing then no ? Or how about the tactical prowess he shows during games when his main input seems to be flapping his arms about like a budgie with broken wings

In principle I understand where you are coming from mate but wenger is showing the same unwillingness to accept responsibility that he breeds in his players ? Has the guy ever admitted that he was wrong ? Ever ??

If he didn't remonstrate and moan during games then you and people like you would be up in arms about a "lack of passion" and you know it.

Mate as I said already I have no problem with that aspect of his personna as long as it isnt his only thing and again I will say that it is. We have all did silly things in the heat of battle that you might regret later but he never seems to If you want to be honest you will also acknowledge that he now uses this type of bullshit as a deflection method to distract people from the fact that we are not good enough plus we are also getting exposed injury wise again cos he refused to strengthen but its better to talk about dodgy referee's isnt it ?

I dont want to get into the referee on tuesday again, my view on that is well documented.

As for your broader point, yes Wenger deflects criticism but what manager does not? When was the last time you saw a manager, let alone a manager of a top club (Yes, we are a top club) admit that they simply aren't good enough? Answers on a postage stamp.

Im far from a fully fledged AKB but I also think alot of the "realist" posts around here lack balance and overstate their case, which is why it often comes across that im only interested in defending Wenger. Im not, he should have made a quality signing in January to boost not only squad numbers but player morale. I also believe that the day Fabregas leaves the club Wenger should do the decent thing and follow him out of the door. Until then, I will remain on the fence and continue to entertain the possibility that this team can come good. They aren't a million miles away.

Went off on a bit of a tangent there

[storrmin571]

Its going to be Jens Lehman. Kick Average Als arse all around the pitch

[Arsenal 1991]

half that argument will be redundant Sat evening 1991

We'll see, but you and I hope not I'm sure!

[topgoon]

Tottenham forums, i imagine, talking about potential 1/4 final opponents

Arsenal boards still banging on and moaning about refs and being cheated

sad how far things have fallen under Wenger

We lost Wenger is shit, the team is still crap let's move on and stop mentioning the swamp dwelling swine. We are starting to become like Stoke going on about Arsenal. It's all a bit small time.

It was fine doing it last night as the game had just ended but today let's move on and talk about what keeper we're getting with our track record lately for keepers my money's on Coco's brother Bozo

[Its Up 4 Grabs Now]

Wenger accuses UEFA of being a dictatorship

fuck me, talk about pot kettle black

The guy stands up for the club against UEFA c**ts and you moan. What would you have said if he'd said "UEFA are right in everything they do, Van Persie should have been sent off, and Barcelona deserve to go through as they're the glory club."

Personally I think it's good to see him showing some fire and not just sitting there like a suit.

There’s an in-between though, surely. He doesn’t have to suck Platini off or wax lyrical about Barca being unbeatable, but ironically if he was a bit more forthcoming about his/our own faults which contributed to the result then more people might take his criticism of the ref as more than just sour grapes. Cos he does have a point. But it gets lost when he talks about being able to guarantee what would & wouldn’t have happened had RVP not been sent off. He doesn’t do himself any favours some times, just by the way he words things.

Deflecting attention away from the players at a time like this is one thing, all managers do that, but it’s a fine line between protecting them & over-protecting them. Especially since we never seem to successfully foster any siege mentality out of it. Generally it turns more into “woe is usâ€

[mikeyb772001]

Just watched on ATVO! I tell you what, whatever people say about him not buying this that and the other, I am so proud with the way he acts and talks about us! Absolute model professional, and stands up and protects his players at every single turn!!! He's had a right go at UEFA! Then you look at y*ds and manure manager. One swears on live telly and is a 'right old' wheeler dealer, and the other publicly comes out to beg shrek to stay, sayin he wants away, and kicks boots in his players heads if they lose! Embarrisment!!

One Arsene Wenger!

So you dont see wenger constantly, and I mean in every single fcuking game, remonstrating with the 4th official as embarassing then no ? Or how about the tactical prowess he shows during games when his main input seems to be flapping his arms about like a budgie with broken wings

In principle I understand where you are coming from mate but wenger is showing the same unwillingness to accept responsibility that he breeds in his players ? Has the guy ever admitted that he was wrong ? Ever ??

If he didn't remonstrate and moan during games then you and people like you would be up in arms about a "lack of passion" and you know it.

Mate as I said already I have no problem with that aspect of his personna as long as it isnt his only thing and again I will say that it is. We have all did silly things in the heat of battle that you might regret later but he never seems to If you want to be honest you will also acknowledge that he now uses this type of bullshit as a deflection method to distract people from the fact that we are not good enough plus we are also getting exposed injury wise again cos he refused to strengthen but its better to talk about dodgy referee's isnt it ?

I dont want to get into the referee on tuesday again, my view on that is well documented.

As for your broader point, yes Wenger deflects criticism but what manager does not? When was the last time you saw a manager, let alone a manager of a top club (Yes, we are a top club) admit that they simply aren't good enough? Answers on a postage stamp.

Im far from a fully fledged AKB but I also think alot of the "realist" posts around here lack balance and overstate their case, which is why it often comes across that im only interested in defending Wenger. Im not, he should have made a quality signing in January to boost not only squad numbers but player morale. I also believe that the day Fabregas leaves the club Wenger should do the decent thing and follow him out of the door. Until then, I will remain on the fence and continue to entertain the possibility that this team can come good. They aren't a million miles away.

Went off on a bit of a tangent there

Good points made. Though.....
So if we loose out on the prem and FA Cup through yet more injury’s and end up with nothing again. Will you be as understanding next season?

[Arsenal 1991]

So you dont see wenger constantly, and I mean in every single fcuking game, remonstrating with the 4th official as embarassing then no ? Or how about the tactical prowess he shows during games when his main input seems to be flapping his arms about like a budgie with broken wings

In principle I understand where you are coming from mate but wenger is showing the same unwillingness to accept responsibility that he breeds in his players ? Has the guy ever admitted that he was wrong ? Ever ??

If he didn't remonstrate and moan during games then you and people like you would be up in arms about a "lack of passion" and you know it.

Mate as I said already I have no problem with that aspect of his personna as long as it isnt his only thing and again I will say that it is. We have all did silly things in the heat of battle that you might regret later but he never seems to If you want to be honest you will also acknowledge that he now uses this type of bullshit as a deflection method to distract people from the fact that we are not good enough plus we are also getting exposed injury wise again cos he refused to strengthen but its better to talk about dodgy referee's isnt it ?

I dont want to get into the referee on tuesday again, my view on that is well documented.

As for your broader point, yes Wenger deflects criticism but what manager does not? When was the last time you saw a manager, let alone a manager of a top club (Yes, we are a top club) admit that they simply aren't good enough? Answers on a postage stamp.

Im far from a fully fledged AKB but I also think alot of the "realist" posts around here lack balance and overstate their case, which is why it often comes across that im only interested in defending Wenger. Im not, he should have made a quality signing in January to boost not only squad numbers but player morale. I also believe that the day Fabregas leaves the club Wenger should do the decent thing and follow him out of the door. Until then, I will remain on the fence and continue to entertain the possibility that this team can come good. They aren't a million miles away.

Went off on a bit of a tangent there

Good points made. Though.....
So if we loose out on the prem and FA Cup through yet more injury’s and end up with nothing again. Will you be as understanding next season?

IF he only makes very minimal changes to the squad, ie 1 to 2 players in and out then I would certainly not be understanding AT ALL!

[topgoon]

So you dont see wenger constantly, and I mean in every single fcuking game, remonstrating with the 4th official as embarassing then no ? Or how about the tactical prowess he shows during games when his main input seems to be flapping his arms about like a budgie with broken wings

In principle I understand where you are coming from mate but wenger is showing the same unwillingness to accept responsibility that he breeds in his players ? Has the guy ever admitted that he was wrong ? Ever ??

If he didn't remonstrate and moan during games then you and people like you would be up in arms about a "lack of passion" and you know it.

Mate as I said already I have no problem with that aspect of his personna as long as it isnt his only thing and again I will say that it is. We have all did silly things in the heat of battle that you might regret later but he never seems to If you want to be honest you will also acknowledge that he now uses this type of bullshit as a deflection method to distract people from the fact that we are not good enough plus we are also getting exposed injury wise again cos he refused to strengthen but its better to talk about dodgy referee's isnt it ?

I dont want to get into the referee on tuesday again, my view on that is well documented.

As for your broader point, yes Wenger deflects criticism but what manager does not? When was the last time you saw a manager, let alone a manager of a top club (Yes, we are a top club) admit that they simply aren't good enough? Answers on a postage stamp.

Im far from a fully fledged AKB but I also think alot of the "realist" posts around here lack balance and overstate their case, which is why it often comes across that im only interested in defending Wenger. Im not, he should have made a quality signing in January to boost not only squad numbers but player morale. I also believe that the day Fabregas leaves the club Wenger should do the decent thing and follow him out of the door. Until then, I will remain on the fence and continue to entertain the possibility that this team can come good. They aren't a million miles away.

Went off on a bit of a tangent there

Good points made. Though.....
So if we loose out on the prem and FA Cup through yet more injury’s and end up with nothing again. Will you be as understanding next season?

'IF' that almost sounds optimistic

[Bradywasking]

I don't understand why we just dont recall Vitto Manone from Hull?

As for mystery loan keeper - Shay Given perhaps?

Given is injured out for the season?

It's Given then....easier sign an injured player than wait for them to get injured.

[RoscommonGooner]

Reporter asked him but he refused to name names, and he also initially asked for an apology saying that not only did the decision frustrate the club but ruined the tie for every neutral who loves football.

When the reporter reminded him about our lack of shots on target he said straightaway I can guarantee there's no way it would've stayed that way 11 against 11 as Barca apart from the 35yd free kick that injured Chesney and of course the injury time goal had only 1 shot on target in the 1st half!

And reckoned the ref knew he was killing the game when he dismissed RvP and also heavily indicated that the ref was no angel in the tunnel himself

Augie........... Chesney has to see a specialist in order to get that answer

I got that impression before they went down the tunnel. AW stood on one spot and had a go at the ref, but it was the ref who almost squared up to him.

[Bradywasking]

It's David James....maybe

[TeeCee]

It'll be a French keeper, will have to be a third choice for their club because no-one will let their first choice or reserve keeper go. So whoever it s will be mediocre at best.

[LDB]

So you dont see wenger constantly, and I mean in every single fcuking game, remonstrating with the 4th official as embarassing then no ? Or how about the tactical prowess he shows during games when his main input seems to be flapping his arms about like a budgie with broken wings

In principle I understand where you are coming from mate but wenger is showing the same unwillingness to accept responsibility that he breeds in his players ? Has the guy ever admitted that he was wrong ? Ever ??

If he didn't remonstrate and moan during games then you and people like you would be up in arms about a "lack of passion" and you know it.

Mate as I said already I have no problem with that aspect of his personna as long as it isnt his only thing and again I will say that it is. We have all did silly things in the heat of battle that you might regret later but he never seems to If you want to be honest you will also acknowledge that he now uses this type of bullshit as a deflection method to distract people from the fact that we are not good enough plus we are also getting exposed injury wise again cos he refused to strengthen but its better to talk about dodgy referee's isnt it ?

I dont want to get into the referee on tuesday again, my view on that is well documented.

As for your broader point, yes Wenger deflects criticism but what manager does not? When was the last time you saw a manager, let alone a manager of a top club (Yes, we are a top club) admit that they simply aren't good enough? Answers on a postage stamp.

Im far from a fully fledged AKB but I also think alot of the "realist" posts around here lack balance and overstate their case, which is why it often comes across that im only interested in defending Wenger. Im not, he should have made a quality signing in January to boost not only squad numbers but player morale. I also believe that the day Fabregas leaves the club Wenger should do the decent thing and follow him out of the door. Until then, I will remain on the fence and continue to entertain the possibility that this team can come good. They aren't a million miles away.

Went off on a bit of a tangent there

Good points made. Though.....
So if we loose out on the prem and FA Cup through yet more injury’s and end up with nothing again. Will you be as understanding next season?

Bit of a politicians answer here but every side has its tipping point - the time when they either deliver or disband and my personal opinion is that I've seen enough of this side to believe that it can still go either way.

So yes, until the day comes that CF4 walks out the door (I will consider that a disbanding of this team, such is Cescs importance) I will continue to be understanding no matter how frustrated I will be if we end up potless again. If that day comes before we deliver then I would say that Wenger should pay for the failure of his team with his job. Whether the board have similar ideas is another matter