The way to get their attention

Arsenal 1991 · Post by **Arsenal 1991** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:58 pm

Metalheadz Gooner wrote:John Cross seems like the obvious choice for a press in.

http://www.onlinegooner.com/phpbb2/view ... &start=105

Hes a great guy, I think he would probably write a story on it. Matt law from the express would be another good un, they both tweet a lot about Arsenal.

Post by **HashKads** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:00 pm

Arsenal 1991 wrote:
Metalheadz Gooner wrote:John Cross seems like the obvious choice for a press in.

http://www.onlinegooner.com/phpbb2/view ... &start=105
Hes a great guy, I think he would probably write a story on it. Matt law from the express would be another good un, they both tweet a lot about Arsenal.

I might send off a few emails tonight, see what their response is like. Need to think of the basis of the argument though.

Post by **HashKads** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:00 pm

1886 wrote:
kingjayson1 wrote:

This was done by Dan 85, brilliant work as usual and I think would be perfect for the cause.
This. Can I resize it for my sig if it isn't being used?

Go for it, the more the merrier I say.

Post by **HashKads** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:01 pm

frankbutcher wrote:
kingjayson1 wrote:
frankbutcher wrote:Names for the Group...?? Got to be punchy and get the point across in the name.

"Victory Through Harmony"
"Dial Square 1886"
I think the name Arsenal FC, not PLC should be a go-er.

As Frank said, I'd be happy putting money in the pot for fliers, banners etc. Good shout from Rosie_titters.

Hope this gets off the ground.

One Question, what is our collective aim?
Jase - the only thing about using Arsenal FC, is that it's copyrighted. I say we steer clear of that. Victory Through Harmony gets my vote.

A mission statement needs to be written up, and then everyone can debate it until we agree on it.

Really? That could prove a little be of a problem then. Even if we use â„¢?

USMartin · Post by **USMartin** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:02 pm

SteveO 35 wrote:I think Quartz is right...if this is really going to get the attention then it needs to be co-ordinated and its mission needs to be clear. There needs to be at least one, and preferably a wider group of spokespeople for the Group, that if ever given the chance by the club can clearly state their concerns and back them up with facts and evidence.

There would be nothing worse than it descending into a group that has no clear thinking; the club needs to know the list of things we are unhappy with.

The banners also need to be well thought out.

The Green and Gold movement was a crock of shit; xenophobic and nasty, taking banners around like "Die Glazer Die".....nice. We are better than that...

Agreed. As I said our goal is to stop the rot really, whatever the cause for it. I don't think a movement whose sole goal is either just to get rid of the manager or condemn the Board serves our purpose. It is critical that we stop the rot and that means getting the cause for it spot-on, and no one knows with absolute certainty what that cause is yet. There is evidence to suggest it might be either than manager alone the Board alone or most likely both together to some extent.

But it can only do more harm than good to simply choose one possibility and act solely on correcting that.

Unity of purpose is essential and that purpose has to be to stop the rot, to correct the decline, period and to be willing to address all possible reasons for it.

Arsenal 1991 · Post by **Arsenal 1991** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:04 pm

kingjayson1 wrote:
Arsenal 1991 wrote:
Metalheadz Gooner wrote:John Cross seems like the obvious choice for a press in.

http://www.onlinegooner.com/phpbb2/view ... &start=105
Hes a great guy, I think he would probably write a story on it. Matt law from the express would be another good un, they both tweet a lot about Arsenal.
I might send off a few emails tonight, see what their response is like. Need to think of the basis of the argument though.

@johncrossmirror @mattlawexpress @DarrenArsenal1 @legrove
These would be a good start, I'll tweet them if you've got a message readied (john is following me atm)

USMartin · Post by **USMartin** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:06 pm

Actually ussing the traditional club motto could be quite clever even if it is copyrighted as that would be a PR disaster for the club if they were to take action as it would be clear evidence of howe much more purely corporate our Club appears to have become and would show their apparent disregard for the club's real values at this time as stated in that motto.

That could do more to fix media attention on this than anything else ironically enough - something to keep in mind at least.

1886 · Post by **1886** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:08 pm

kingjayson1 wrote:
1886 wrote:
kingjayson1 wrote:

This was done by Dan 85, brilliant work as usual and I think would be perfect for the cause.
This. Can I resize it for my sig if it isn't being used?
Go for it, the more the merrier I say.

Thanks!

Post by **QuartzGooner** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:08 pm

Yeah SteveO has identified a clear and important item.

Anything that campaigns for"Wenger Out" or "The Board Out" is doomed.
It is too cliched, and by it's very nature encourages resistance against it.

Focus should be on getting the manager to buy more top quality players/improving the coaching.

And that is it.

Anything else such as ticket prices, relations with the club, etc is pointless, as there already exist fan organisations to deal with that, which have regular meetings with the club.

Our focus must be on changing the frustration of seeing a squad that has been "So near yet so far" for the last five years.

Arsenal 1991 · Post by **Arsenal 1991** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:10 pm

Heres the code http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv73 ... banner.jpg

Henry Norris 1913 · Post by **Henry Norris 1913** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:11 pm

glad my idea of a sit in is gathering momentum and the banner looks great. now we just need to fly USM out to london to bore the board into submission.

Post by **HashKads** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:11 pm

QuartzGooner wrote:Yeah SteveO has identified a clear and important item.

Anything that campaigns for"Wenger Out" or "The Board Out" is doomed.
It is too cliched, and by it's very nature encourages resistance against it.

Focus should be on getting the manager to buy more top quality players/improving the coaching.

And that is it.

Anything else such as ticket prices, relations with the club, etc is pointless, as there already exist fan organisations to deal with that, which have regular meetings with the club.

Our focus must be on changing the frustration of seeing a squad that has been "So near yet so far" for the last five years.

Good point, we dont want something which is covered by other organisations but then there are things which come under the remit of other organisations but are doing f**k all about it, namely ticket prices.

Post by **HashKads** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:12 pm

Henry Norris 1913 wrote:glad my idea of a sit in is gathering momentum and the banner looks great. now we just need to fly USM out to london to bore the board into submission.

Imagine him and Hill Wood in a room together, party time

Arsenal 1991 · Post by **Arsenal 1991** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:14 pm

kingjayson1 wrote:
Henry Norris 1913 wrote:glad my idea of a sit in is gathering momentum and the banner looks great. now we just need to fly USM out to london to bore the board into submission.
Imagine him and Hill Wood in a room together, party time

There would be blood.

Hill wood would beat Marty senseless after about 5 mins.

1886 · Post by **1886** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:15 pm

Arsenal 1991 wrote:Heres the code http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv73 ... banner.jpg

If you want to use a smaller banner for the signature I've got it on photobucket:

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc15 ... ner-11.jpg