Nasri Contract situation

piresistible · Post by **piresistible** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:09 pm

Iâ€™m not saying Nasri is awful, Iâ€™m not saying heâ€™s wrong, but I donâ€™t understand why anybody would be so quick to defend it when it will have a negative impact on the club. If Nasri had of signed a new contract and then wanted to leave the club would be in a far better position financially and would have been far better of with more money to potentially spend.

Nasri is behaving just like Hleb did.

ThomasMitchell · Post by **ThomasMitchell** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:10 pm

mikeyb772001 wrote:a manager who has fat kid mum sports day mentality.

Sums it up wonderfully.

piresistible · Post by **piresistible** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:18 pm

Arsenal have the third highest wage bill in the league. We pay very high wages, comparably.

And youâ€™re right, a lot of players donâ€™t leave because of the money. Some genuinely want to move to better clubs â€“ but Nasri has deliberately run down his contract â€“ the only reason to do that is to lower his fee and get a bigger signing on fee.

Arsenal should know all about that tactic as Sol Campbell did it to Sp*rs when he moved to us.

mikeyb772001 · Post by **mikeyb772001** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:21 pm

piresistible wrote:Iâ€™m not saying Nasri is awful, Iâ€™m not saying heâ€™s wrong, but I donâ€™t understand why anybody would be so quick to defend it when it will have a negative impact on the club. If Nasri had of signed a new contract and then wanted to leave the club would be in a far better position financially and would have been far better of with more money to potentially spend.

Nasri is behaving just like Hleb did.

Lets put it another way

Over the last few seasons Nasri has tried to have faith in Wengers crumbling empire. He finally wakes up out of wengers spell and realises that club is going backwards and is fucked off that he has wasted a few years of his life playing for a club with no ambition other than making money for the board and the manger.
He knows he is better than the likes of denilson, diaby, TR, eboue and Vela so he decides to speak up and demand more money to soften the blow of being a loser.

He is a *word censored* ye!!!! I hope he goes so we can put a teenager in his place that will play under wengers spell for the next 5 years until he has 5 good games and then demands a pay rise or he will go to Chelsea.

mikeyb772001 · Post by **mikeyb772001** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:27 pm

Look, its 1 mans fault this has happened. Wenger !

What is Wengers job? Oh yeh its to manage the team which includes players contracts

How can he let this happen in the first place?

Another great bit of work by the Arsene FC

augie · Post by **augie** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:36 pm

I have said for the past 2 months that I am more convined that nasri will leave this summer than I am that cesc will leave. We have seen enough evidence in the past that when a player with us runs his contract down within one year of its expiration than odds on he is gonna leave but on most of those occasions the fool that is wenger kept with his blind faith nothing new there

) that said player (or should that be said french player) would sign a new deal and then just allowed them to walk away on a free instead of selling him with 12 months remaining

Personally I believe we should make him a final contract offer (not 110k per week though) and tell him to sign it or be sold this summer - the situation is ours to control and rather than allowing him to walk away for free we should try and make as much money for him as possible whilst being mindful of not selling him to a club where it can end up biting us on the arse. In other words sell him to a russian/ukranian or some other shithole club in a shithole country where he freeze his bollocks off for the next few years. If he refuses to leave to the club that bids the most money then he should be stuck into the reserves for the next 12 months to stagnate there and we will see then how many big clubs will chase his signiture then.......out of sight out of mind

All that being said I dont blame nasri or any of our top players for wanting to leave - I said last summer when talking about cesc, that the thing that seperates the very best players from the rest is the ambition to actually win trophies and even stevie wonder can see that with this board, with this frugal policy and most of all with this outdated gobshite manager we will not see the club winning trophies in the foreseeable future

Some fans might choose to believe wenger when he says that success is only around the corner but the players who work with him every single day can see that as the bullshit that it is and if the players dont believe in wenger's ways anymore then what is the point in keeping him ? Surely in every league, but especially in the english league, teams need to have a solidarity that sees them all pulling in the one direction if they are to achieve success ?

As long as our top players continue to leave, even if it is only 1 top player per season, then this team and club will continue to be in rebuilding mode and I believe that we the fans will rue the missed opportunity to increase the pressure on wenger by pointing the finger at him in those protest marches for a long time to come...........wenger in charge = no more trophies

mikeyb772001 · Post by **mikeyb772001** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:42 pm

augie wrote:I have said for the past 2 months that I am more convined that nasri will leave this summer than I am that cesc will leave. We have seen enough evidence in the past that when a player with us runs his contract down within one year of its expiration than odds on he is gonna leave but on most of those occasions the fool that is wenger kept with his blind faith nothing new there ) that said player (or should that be said french player) would sign a new deal and then just allowed them to walk away on a free instead of selling him with 12 months remaining

Personally I believe we should make him a final contract offer (not 110k per week though) and tell him to sign it or be sold this summer - the situation is ours to control and rather than allowing him to walk away for free we should try and make as much money for him as possible whilst being mindful of not selling him to a club where it can end up biting us on the arse. In other words sell him to a russian/ukranian or some other shithole club in a shithole country where he freeze his bollocks off for the next few years. If he refuses to leave to the club that bids the most money then he should be stuck into the reserves for the next 12 months to stagnate there and we will see then how many big clubs will chase his signiture then.......out of sight out of mind

All that being said I dont blame nasri or any of our top players for wanting to leave - I said last summer when talking about cesc, that the thing that seperates the very best players from the rest is the ambition to actually win trophies and even stevie wonder can see that with this board, with this frugal policy and most of all with this outdated gobshite manager we will not see the club winning trophies in the foreseeable future Some fans might choose to believe wenger when he says that success is only around the corner but the players who work with him every single day can see that as the bullshit that it is and if the players dont believe in wenger's ways anymore then what is the point in keeping him ? Surely in every league, but especially in the english league, teams need to have a solidarity that sees them all pulling in the one direction if they are to achieve success ?

As long as our top players continue to leave, even if it is only 1 top player per season, then this team and club will continue to be in rebuilding mode and I believe that we the fans will rue the missed opportunity to increase the pressure on wenger by pointing the finger at him in those protest marches for a long time to come...........wenger in charge = no more trophies

now if anyone can find fault in that i will buy u a pint

piresistible · Post by **piresistible** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:43 pm

mikeyb772001 wrote:
piresistible wrote:Iâ€™m not saying Nasri is awful, Iâ€™m not saying heâ€™s wrong, but I donâ€™t understand why anybody would be so quick to defend it when it will have a negative impact on the club. If Nasri had of signed a new contract and then wanted to leave the club would be in a far better position financially and would have been far better of with more money to potentially spend.

Nasri is behaving just like Hleb did.
Lets put it another way

Over the last few seasons Nasri has tried to have faith in Wengers crumbling empire. He finally wakes up out of wengers spell and realises that club is going backwards and is fucked off that he has wasted a few years of his life playing for a club with no ambition other than making money for the board and the manger.
He knows he is better than the likes of denilson, diaby, TR, eboue and Vela so he decides to speak up and demand more money to soften the blow of being a loser.

He is a c**t ye!!!! I hope he goes so we can put a teenager in his place that will play under wengers spell for the next 5 years until he has 5 good games and then demands a pay rise or he will go to Chelsea.

1 assist this season. Hardly earth shattering.

Babu · Post by **Babu** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:12 pm

mikeyb772001 wrote: Since 2005 when the project started how many players have left arsenal. You cant say everyone was about money. They cant openly say I am leaving as I donâ€™t trust wenger or because the club lacks ambition and trophies.

Just checked who's left since 2005.

......................Lehmann.......................
Lauren.......Kolo..........Gallas..........Cole
Ljungberg.....Gilberto....Vieira.......Hleb
...............Reyes.....Henry......................

subs. Poom, Hoyte, Senderos, Diarra, Larsson, Adebayor, Eduardo

A fairly decent team in itself...a bit old in places, but you could change Diarra for PV, and Ade for TH, Larsson for Freddie, and still get a decent team.

mikeyb772001 · Post by **mikeyb772001** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:18 pm

Babu wrote:
mikeyb772001 wrote: Since 2005 when the project started how many players have left arsenal. You cant say everyone was about money. They cant openly say I am leaving as I donâ€™t trust wenger or because the club lacks ambition and trophies.
Just checked who's left since 2005.

......................Lehmann.......................
Lauren.......Kolo..........Gallas..........Cole
Ljungberg.....Gilberto....Vieira.......Hleb
...............Reyes.....Henry......................

subs. Poom, Hoyte, Senderos, Diarra, Larsson, Adebayor, Eduardo

A fairly decent team in itself...a bit old in places, but you could change Diarra for PV, and Ade for TH, Larsson for Freddie, and still get a decent team.

haha well that just says it all!

Babu · Post by **Babu** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:21 pm

piresistible wrote:
Arsenal should know all about that tactic as Sol Campbell did it to Sp*rs when he moved to us.

And of course Wenger should know it because a few of our mercenaries have done it already.
Kanu did it, so did Wiltord, and although the circumstances were a bit different, a few other players also played that game. Edu did it too, although that was because of a laughable offer by Wenger to re-sign.

Post by **g88ner** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:51 pm

piresistible wrote:but Nasri has deliberately run down his contract â€“ the only reason to do that is to lower his fee and get a bigger signing on fee.

the only reason?? - seriously, how long did you think about that before coming to the "only" conclusion

Neither you or me know why Nasri hasn't signed yet, but I assure you there are other possible reasons than the one you gave, and the fact you couldn't think of any other reasons is embarassing on your part!

How about this for a valid reason...

It's a fact that a player with a short contract has more influence over their career than a player with a long contract. Cesc signed a very long contract, and as a result - now that he wants to leave - he's put Arsenal in a very strong position to simply refuse to sell... which has happened. Nasri might be concerned that Arsenal can't match his ambition or hold onto key players, and Nasri might just be wary that committing to 3 or 4 more years might just see him in the position Cesc is now i.e. frustrated, no trophies, and desperate to leave but unable to do so.

After all, he would be wanted by top clubs... top clubs that perhaps have a better chance of winning trophies!

USMartin · Post by **USMartin** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 3:54 pm

augie wrote:I have said for the past 2 months that I am more convined that nasri will leave this summer than I am that cesc will leave. We have seen enough evidence in the past that when a player with us runs his contract down within one year of its expiration than odds on he is gonna leave but on most of those occasions the fool that is wenger kept with his blind faith nothing new there ) that said player (or should that be said french player) would sign a new deal and then just allowed them to walk away on a free instead of selling him with 12 months remaining

Personally I believe we should make him a final contract offer (not 110k per week though) and tell him to sign it or be sold this summer - the situation is ours to control and rather than allowing him to walk away for free we should try and make as much money for him as possible whilst being mindful of not selling him to a club where it can end up biting us on the arse. In other words sell him to a russian/ukranian or some other shithole club in a shithole country where he freeze his bollocks off for the next few years. If he refuses to leave to the club that bids the most money then he should be stuck into the reserves for the next 12 months to stagnate there and we will see then how many big clubs will chase his signiture then.......out of sight out of mind

All that being said I dont blame nasri or any of our top players for wanting to leave - I said last summer when talking about cesc, that the thing that seperates the very best players from the rest is the ambition to actually win trophies and even stevie wonder can see that with this board, with this frugal policy and most of all with this outdated gobshite manager we will not see the club winning trophies in the foreseeable future Some fans might choose to believe wenger when he says that success is only around the corner but the players who work with him every single day can see that as the bullshit that it is and if the players dont believe in wenger's ways anymore then what is the point in keeping him ? Surely in every league, but especially in the english league, teams need to have a solidarity that sees them all pulling in the one direction if they are to achieve success ?

As long as our top players continue to leave, even if it is only 1 top player per season, then this team and club will continue to be in rebuilding mode and I believe that we the fans will rue the missed opportunity to increase the pressure on wenger by pointing the finger at him in those protest marches for a long time to come...........wenger in charge = no more trophies

Here's the thing Augie. You again delude yourself that it will be different with a managerial change. Why would it be, so long as the current policy works and no one holds the people who own the club and have let the manager not spend why would anything change? Why would they just let this one man refuse to spend and ignore their desire to spend indefinitely then just decide out of the blue they will force the next man to spend because they can?

The simple reality is Arsene Wenger does not run Arsenal Football Club no matter how it may appear. The simple truth is the Arsenal Board could fire him anytime they wanted to since he signed to become manager in 1996. They have chosen not to sack him - period. He did not force them to keep him on he did not bully them into keeping him on. They have kept him on because he is willing not to demand the money he needs for wages or transfers the way other m,anagers would especially on his wages and with no pressure to earn them other than finishing in the top four.

We need to be demanded the Board explain the policies of the last four years on our terms and not just accept the ArsenalSpeak or Gazidis Spin where they lie straight to us just in a manner that sounds the way we wabnt it to but gioes unquestioned every time its proven suspect.

Only if and when the Board's persoanl reutation - as well now as Stan Kroenke's is call into real question will there be real change at Arsenal.So long as we try to con ourselves into believing managerial change alone is any sort of answer the people running the club are free to continue to to spit on us and our trust in them....and do you sriously think they won't then?

Rocky Number Seven · Post by **Rocky Number Seven** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 3:57 pm

augie wrote:I have said for the past 2 months that I am more convined that nasri will leave this summer than I am that cesc will leave. We have seen enough evidence in the past that when a player with us runs his contract down within one year of its expiration than odds on he is gonna leave but on most of those occasions the fool that is wenger kept with his blind faith nothing new there ) that said player (or should that be said french player) would sign a new deal and then just allowed them to walk away on a free instead of selling him with 12 months remaining

Personally I believe we should make him a final contract offer (not 110k per week though) and tell him to sign it or be sold this summer - the situation is ours to control and rather than allowing him to walk away for free we should try and make as much money for him as possible whilst being mindful of not selling him to a club where it can end up biting us on the arse. In other words sell him to a russian/ukranian or some other shithole club in a shithole country where he freeze his bollocks off for the next few years. If he refuses to leave to the club that bids the most money then he should be stuck into the reserves for the next 12 months to stagnate there and we will see then how many big clubs will chase his signiture then.......out of sight out of mind

All that being said I dont blame nasri or any of our top players for wanting to leave - I said last summer when talking about cesc, that the thing that seperates the very best players from the rest is the ambition to actually win trophies and even stevie wonder can see that with this board, with this frugal policy and most of all with this outdated gobshite manager we will not see the club winning trophies in the foreseeable future Some fans might choose to believe wenger when he says that success is only around the corner but the players who work with him every single day can see that as the bullshit that it is and if the players dont believe in wenger's ways anymore then what is the point in keeping him ? Surely in every league, but especially in the english league, teams need to have a solidarity that sees them all pulling in the one direction if they are to achieve success ?

As long as our top players continue to leave, even if it is only 1 top player per season, then this team and club will continue to be in rebuilding mode and I believe that we the fans will rue the missed opportunity to increase the pressure on wenger by pointing the finger at him in those protest marches for a long time to come...........wenger in charge = no more trophies

Top post, agree with every word including the part about us continuing to be a club in transition if we sell our top players year in year out.

MK Gould · Post by **MK Gould** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 4:54 pm

I'm already soooooo depressed and its only 6th June. F*ck me, what's it going to be like by 6th July when Samir's transfer to whoever has been confirmed and we still haven't signed anyone!

The only things that would in some small way help would be if QPR really do sign Eboue and Denilson and Bendtner f*ck off to Spain and/or Germany!