HANGZHOU GREENTOWN OFFICIAL THREAD

[Chips and Chocolate]

And by the way, Wilshere is showing he is different class!

[Dan_85]

I honestly don't think our defence actually communicate with each other at all - they do not play as a unit, just the 4 / 5 individuals.

I was at the Woking game last night & this is one of the things that struck me most. Our team don't communicate with each other at all, not a word. Whereas Woking were shouting at each other, giving each other directions all game.

Seems that it's something that features in our teams at all levels...

[Batflyer]

I agree on Vermaelen! Koscielny, while not bad, is not ready to be in the first XI. Playing Cahill or Samba alongside big Tom + replacing Clichy is a must in my opinion!

I think Koscielny is good when he plays next to Vermaelen or Djourou, while Koscielny + Squillaci is a nightmare.

[Pilly]

I honestly don't think our defence actually communicate with each other at all - they do not play as a unit, just the 4 / 5 individuals.

I was at the Woking game last night & this is one of the things that struck me most. Our team don't communicate with each other at all, not a word. Whereas Woking were shouting at each other, giving each other directions all game.

Seems that it's something that features in our teams at all levels...

It's because we've got 11 captains out there that no one knows who's in charge...

[StuartL]

I honestly don't think our defence actually communicate with each other at all - they do not play as a unit, just the 4 / 5 individuals.

I was at the Woking game last night & this is one of the things that struck me most. Our team don't communicate with each other at all, not a word. Whereas Woking were shouting at each other, giving each other directions all game.

Seems that it's something that features in our teams at all levels...

perhaps they do it by telpathy ?

Showing their mental strength ?

[T.S]

Getting bullied like that by a Chinese team tells you a lot about that Arsenal team!
I'm trying to look at positives but seriously I can't: we don't know how to defend, that formation is fuckin' useless, we can't get past the center-backs! We're all so predictable! We're absolutely fucked if we don't sign at least 2 defenders but alas we've already made all our summer signings!
And why on earth does Wenger keep giving the likes of Vela or Rosicky a run? They'll never make it as Arsenal players...

Well let's hope for a better 2nd half

Whilst I think that we do need to buy a centre half or two, I'm not sure that's necessarily the problem. Vermalen is a class defender and Koscielny and Djourou aren't bad players. In my opinion, the problem isn't so much personnel, it's the way they're coached. It's hard to judge because you can't quite put your finger on what exactly is wrong, but it seems like bad decisions are made - a lot. There's always one player who forgets to squeeze up when they're trying to play offside or there's always one player napping when a free kick comes in.

The defence needs organising and I'm not sure Wenger is the one to do it. He's not going anywhere until the end of his contract (sorry, but it's true) so the only thing I can think of is getting some kind of defensive coach.

I agree on Vermaelen! Koscielny, while not bad, is not ready to be in the first XI. Playing Cahill or Samba alongside big Tom + replacing Clichy is a must in my opinion!

Possibly, but I'd hope that our international scouting system would be able to identify two better players than Cahill or Samba. Just because the papers keep saying Cahill and Samba (based on no real information at all), doesn't mean that that's what we need to settle for. Remember, Man Utd spent £16 million on Phil Jones. If Cahill or Samba were that good you'd expect United to by first in the queue, wouldn't you? As it stands, there doesn't really seem to be interest from anyone else yet (again, according to paper talk).

[DUFFMAN]

anyone else see that smug,arrogant nod wenger did to pat rice after vela scrambled the ball into the net?

" see pat, i told you we dont need to buy a striker.Who needs benzema?"

wtf - give vela a chance mate...

Final socre 5-1 to us

vela's more than had his chance.times up

anyway, it was more a comment about the mug thats paid £6m+ a year to make sure we are good enough to challenge for trophies,yet thinks average players are suddenly gonna change into world beaters.

[T.S]

Another killer delivery from Walcott

[rodders999]

Pathetic in front of goal, what's new

[T.S]

Do they really have a player named Randy Diamond?! That cannot be his real name...

[Captain Fabregas]

what is wenger wearing

[StuartL]

Another killer delivery from Walcott

Followed up with 2 great shots. Henry mark 2 ?

[Chips and Chocolate]

Getting bullied like that by a Chinese team tells you a lot about that Arsenal team!
I'm trying to look at positives but seriously I can't: we don't know how to defend, that formation is fuckin' useless, we can't get past the center-backs! We're all so predictable! We're absolutely fucked if we don't sign at least 2 defenders but alas we've already made all our summer signings!
And why on earth does Wenger keep giving the likes of Vela or Rosicky a run? They'll never make it as Arsenal players...

Well let's hope for a better 2nd half

Whilst I think that we do need to buy a centre half or two, I'm not sure that's necessarily the problem. Vermalen is a class defender and Koscielny and Djourou aren't bad players. In my opinion, the problem isn't so much personnel, it's the way they're coached. It's hard to judge because you can't quite put your finger on what exactly is wrong, but it seems like bad decisions are made - a lot. There's always one player who forgets to squeeze up when they're trying to play offside or there's always one player napping when a free kick comes in.

The defence needs organising and I'm not sure Wenger is the one to do it. He's not going anywhere until the end of his contract (sorry, but it's true) so the only thing I can think of is getting some kind of defensive coach.

I agree on Vermaelen! Koscielny, while not bad, is not ready to be in the first XI. Playing Cahill or Samba alongside big Tom + replacing Clichy is a must in my opinion!

Possibly, but I'd hope that our international scouting system would be able to identify two better players than Cahill or Samba. Just because the papers keep saying Cahill and Samba (based on no real information at all), doesn't mean that that's what we need to settle for. Remember, Man Utd spent £16 million on Phil Jones. If Cahill or Samba were that good you'd expect United to by first in the queue, wouldn't you? As it stands, there doesn't really seem to be interest from anyone else yet (again, according to paper talk).

Samba or Cahill might not be all that but at least they would be reliable additions ready for the PL. And our international scouting system has not be that efficient in the last few years, has it?
Anyway, I'm no football manager. Let's enjoy the 2nd half!

[Pilly]

Getting bullied like that by a Chinese team tells you a lot about that Arsenal team!
I'm trying to look at positives but seriously I can't: we don't know how to defend, that formation is fuckin' useless, we can't get past the center-backs! We're all so predictable! We're absolutely fucked if we don't sign at least 2 defenders but alas we've already made all our summer signings!
And why on earth does Wenger keep giving the likes of Vela or Rosicky a run? They'll never make it as Arsenal players...

Well let's hope for a better 2nd half

Whilst I think that we do need to buy a centre half or two, I'm not sure that's necessarily the problem. Vermalen is a class defender and Koscielny and Djourou aren't bad players. In my opinion, the problem isn't so much personnel, it's the way they're coached. It's hard to judge because you can't quite put your finger on what exactly is wrong, but it seems like bad decisions are made - a lot. There's always one player who forgets to squeeze up when they're trying to play offside or there's always one player napping when a free kick comes in.

The defence needs organising and I'm not sure Wenger is the one to do it. He's not going anywhere until the end of his contract (sorry, but it's true) so the only thing I can think of is getting some kind of defensive coach.

I agree on Vermaelen! Koscielny, while not bad, is not ready to be in the first XI. Playing Cahill or Samba alongside big Tom + replacing Clichy is a must in my opinion!

Possibly, but I'd hope that our international scouting system would be able to identify two better players than Cahill or Samba. Just because the papers keep saying Cahill and Samba (based on no real information at all), doesn't mean that that's what we need to settle for. Remember, Man Utd spent £16 million on Phil Jones. If Cahill or Samba were that good you'd expect United to by first in the queue, wouldn't you? As it stands, there doesn't really seem to be interest from anyone else yet (again, according to paper talk).

Samba or Cahill might not be all that but at least they would be reliable additions ready for the PL. And our international scouting system has not be that efficient in the last few years, has it?
Anyway, I'm no football manager. Let's enjoy the 2nd half!

Subotic from Dortmund would be a far better signing in my humble opinion.

[rodders999]

2o mins to go, time to start writing potential headlines. Mine is.....

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