Listen to yourselves

SpanishJoe · Post by **SpanishJoe** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:29 pm

You wanted to find 'like-minded' Gooners on this Forum. I guess that plan didn't work out quite as you'd hoped. Although, other than thinking we're not true fans and should go and support Chelski, I'm not sure what you do feel about matters regarding the club.
Surely a forum is where all points of view are exchanged (if you studied many of the threads you'd see that there are indeed widely differing views).

I too feel that there are a number of posters who are too quick to make the worst possible interpretation of anything AW or the club do, but they are entitled to their opinion and they are open to challenge. However, I would never accuse them of not being true fans as you clearly do. Are you suggesting that a 'true fan' cannot complain about or disagree with the club?

Post by **REB** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:36 pm

fuck arsenal.com for shutting down there forum

so now we get the sun shines from arsene,s arse super supporter looking for new forums

Twirl · Post by **Twirl** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:01 pm

Do not feed the troll.

And this thread is lacking pictures.

Post by **flash gunner** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:08 pm

REBEL GOONER wrote:fuck arsenal.com for shutting down there forum so now we get the sun shines from arsene,s arse super supporter looking for new forums

It shut at 5pm..... Get ready for the invasion of the *word censored*

AFCWozza · Post by **AFCWozza** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:08 pm

Yay, i may have found a friend on this site

Its not my other username, honest

Post by **flash gunner** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:12 pm

AFCWozza wrote:Yay, i may have found a friend on this site

Its not my other username, honest

Here they come. oh no its just Wozza

joke Wozza

Rugby Gooner · Post by **Rugby Gooner** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:19 pm

REBEL GOONER wrote:fuck arsenal.com for shutting down there forum so now we get the sun shines from arsene,s arse super supporter looking for new forums

I thought that they had set up another forum for themselves.

skipper · Post by **skipper** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:21 pm

jambug wrote:I asked why we should finnish above Multi Multi Million pound spending Chelsea City and UTD. Not one of you have given one. I have not once infered wenger has not made any mistakes or indeed infered he is perfect. Buying and selling certain players is a matter of opinion. Yours, mine, all the others on here and in the ground and around the World and we will all disagree or agree to a greater or lesser degree. That same debate with differing views you can be sure goes on at all Clubs. The crux of the matter is, irrespective of how much money we have, relative to the afore mentioned, we have very little. The truth of the matter is you expect Wenger to produce miracles. You expect Wenger to produce a team cappable of finnishing above Chelsea, UTD and City irespective of his relatively meagre budget. You think just because Arsenal have to charge such high prices because of the riduculously inflated market place that automatically gives you the right to demand success. Well it does'nt work like that. If you have an issue with prices take out your frustrations on the cause of those high prices. Why is it Wengers or Arsenals fault that they are competing in a race where effectively 3 of the competitors are running on steroids!! AS I say NOT ONE of you has given a valid reason as to why we should finnish above those financially 'doped' teams. Oh and dont be so touchy, I hav'nt insulted anyone unless you think being called a bunch of 'neg heads' is particularly insulting!!

Because our manager keeps telling us we will. For 6 years now. Also our manager told us reason we left wonderfull Highbury and moved to plastic Emirates was to enable us to compete financialy with anyone really. So people are pissed off because our manager is either:

a) Liar
b) Can't deliver what he promises

So, what papers do you read?

mcdowell42 · Post by **mcdowell42** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:24 pm

Guys just ignore him like i do with us marty when he posts

NBN · Post by **NBN** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:27 pm

jambug wrote:I joined this site with the hope of finding like minded Gooners, you know guys that love Arsenal come hell or high water. Guys that actually support the team. Guys that realise that there is more to being a fan than just watching the medals roll in. Guys that are proud of the way our Club is run. Proud of the way we are still hanging in there despite sugar daddies throwing MILLIONS even BILLIONS of pounds of un earnt dosh at other clubs. But what do I find ? A bunch of whingeing whineing ungrateful fair weather, I hesitate to use the word, fans, doing nothing but gripe, gripe and gripe some more. Jeeeez, I thought it was bad on 606 but you lot take the biscuit. And this is supposed to be a site for are SUPPORTERS. If all your expectations of a football team/club are that they throw insane, unsustainable, crippling amounts of money about, in our case money we havn't got (relative to the afore mentioned I mean) then you are sad sad sad. And dont come out with that rubbish about 'we charge the most for tickets' or 'we have got the money' because that is utter bull. In the first instant, yes we do charge high prices but WHYS THAT? Because if we at least want to try to compete we have to raise the money somehow. WE HAVN'T got and most DON'T WANT a sugar Daddy therefore you and I have to pay for the ridiculously over inflated Wages and transfer fees that have been caused by the sugar Daddys in the first place. And sencondly yes of course we have money but relative to Chelsea City and even UTD? Do me a favour. And while I'm talking of favours why don't you do yourself one, and go and support the National bank of Russia or the Saudia oil barons as you seem to love money so much!!!

Anyone who genuinely LOVES Arsenal Football Club should be appalled with what the money grabbing board and Wenger are doing to the club. You seem to confuse supporting the CLUB and supporting the current regime as the same thing.

The dis-satisfaction you see on this site and others is nothing to do with not finishing above Citeh and the Chavs. Its about being lied to, ripped off, changed without our consent and becoming a laughing stock. If being a proper supporter means sitting back and watching these *word censored* destroy our great club then i guess i am not one. Unfortunately people like yourself who will keep on blindly following Wenger and the board will only help things get worse.

jambug · Post by **jambug** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:48 pm

One of you guys summed up my point perfectly.... ".....if we have the 10's of Millions in the bank...." And thats jsut it TENS of Millions. The last fgures I saw out of Chelsea was the Russian had bestowed a BILLION POUND interest free loan on them. City are heading down the same route. Then someone says Utd are in the same boat....apsolute bull. The last time I looked there squad was full of 3 or more players costing around Â£30 Million (RIO, Roone, Berba) plus numerous around Â£20 and more between Â£10 and Â£20 Million!! How does that put us anywhere near that level of available funds ??? Again I have not said Wenger has not made mistakes. My point is that whilst these Clubs are being given vertually UNLIMITED FUNDS that they can spend pretty much without ever fearing the consequences of a bad buy (of which there have been plenty by Fergie and the rest) because theres ALWAYS more funds to address the problem. As for Wages, yes we do pay high wages but if we did'nt we would lose even more players to the circling vultures. And as for finding a direct quote regarding finnishing above Chelsea, City or Utd there isn't one but by inferance that is what is the general tone is. Dont try that 'all we want is to be competative' nonesense. During our drought we HAVE been competative, a few finals including One in the CL as well as running the title race close a couple of times. OK we came up short but you cannot say that we hav'nt been 'competative' If you want not 'competative' take a look at Liverpool and Spurs for that...despite spending fortunes. Also take a look at there efforts for a new Stadium, Liverpool are as far away as ever and Spurs have taken to holding out a begging bowl. Look I am genuinely sorry if I've rubbed a few of you up the wrong way. I'm not a WUM or a 'jolly come lately' I've followed Arsenal since the late 60's but I just think Arsenals critics and Wengers inparticular have got the whole thing miles out of proportion. Without doubt many of the points raised are correct, and of course my views are wrong in a lot of peoples eyes, but they are my views and I am entitled to them as are you yours and weather it is my first second or one hundreth post is irrelivant. One last point..I have been called a c**t, told to F..off, given the finger and called a WUM turd. I am not so prudish as to give a second thought to such insults but please do get off your high horse just because I called you a bunch of whingeing neg heads....because rightly or wrongly thats exactly what you are.

jambug · Post by **jambug** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:49 pm

One of you guys summed up my point perfectly.... ".....if we have the 10's of Millions in the bank...." And thats jsut it TENS of Millions. The last fgures I saw out of Chelsea was the Russian had bestowed a BILLION POUND interest free loan on them. City are heading down the same route. Then someone says Utd are in the same boat....apsolute bull. The last time I looked there squad was full of 3 or more players costing around Â£30 Million (RIO, Roone, Berba) plus numerous around Â£20 and more between Â£10 and Â£20 Million!! How does that put us anywhere near that level of available funds ??? Again I have not said Wenger has not made mistakes. My point is that whilst these Clubs are being given vertually UNLIMITED FUNDS that they can spend pretty much without ever fearing the consequences of a bad buy (of which there have been plenty by Fergie and the rest) because theres ALWAYS more funds to address the problem. As for Wages, yes we do pay high wages but if we did'nt we would lose even more players to the circling vultures. And as for finding a direct quote regarding finnishing above Chelsea, City or Utd there isn't one but by inferance that is what is the general tone is. Dont try that 'all we want is to be competative' nonesense. During our drought we HAVE been competative, a few finals including One in the CL as well as running the title race close a couple of times. OK we came up short but you cannot say that we hav'nt been 'competative' If you want not 'competative' take a look at Liverpool and Spurs for that...despite spending fortunes. Also take a look at there efforts for a new Stadium, Liverpool are as far away as ever and Spurs have taken to holding out a begging bowl. Look I am genuinely sorry if I've rubbed a few of you up the wrong way. I'm not a WUM or a 'jolly come lately' I've followed Arsenal since the late 60's but I just think Arsenals critics and Wengers inparticular have got the whole thing miles out of proportion. Without doubt many of the points raised are correct, and of course my views are wrong in a lot of peoples eyes, but they are my views and I am entitled to them as are you yours and weather it is my first second or one hundreth post is irrelivant. One last point..I have been called a c**t, told to F..off, given the finger and called a WUM turd. I am not so prudish as to give a second thought to such insults but please do get off your high horse just because I called you a bunch of whingeing neg heads....because rightly or wrongly thats exactly what you are.

Post by **flash gunner** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:51 pm

"jolly come lately"

Jambug please use paragraphs your bullshit is becoming unreadable.

In the last 3 years Wenger has had chances to win the league but due to his stubborn attitude and refusal to spend (NOT big amounts either) we have lost out. YES - we could have beaten the teams that you say are unbeatable due to their cash, the longer we leave it the further we get left behind. I want trophies but they arent everything, i want to see improvements in certain areas of the team that have failed for the last few years and are NEVER address this is what i judge Wenger on

rodders999 · Post by **rodders999** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:00 pm

Go Jolly go go go
Jolly be good

AFCWozza · Post by **AFCWozza** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:00 pm

flash gunner wrote:
AFCWozza wrote:Yay, i may have found a friend on this site

Its not my other username, honest
Here they come. oh no its just Wozza

joke Wozza

Although i fail to share views with the majority of people on this site, and some may believe that my views may be extremist, it doesnt mean that you all have to dislike me and what i believe in.

When i say extremist views, im not comparing myself to the likes of Osama Bin Laden or Saddam Hussein, if that was the case then i'd either 1: Find myself dead, therefore removed form the forum without further noticed or 2: Not be posting at all as it would give away my current location.

Basically i like this new fellah, for standing up for what he believes in, fighting against the majority and doing it all without taking 1 breath, I salute him my fellow Gooner warrior

Listen to yourselves

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