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UTU wrote:Tory Govt

Coopers shooting People Dead and People shooting at Coopers
Rising Unemployment, Record Youth Employment

Cost of Living Rising but Wages stay the Same for the Man/Woman on the street. Corporations annonce record profits and pay less Tax

How many Soldiers, Police, Nurses, Council Workers, Community Workers and Projects are being Cut by the Govt and then Rise Taxes. People More Tax for Less Services.

Corrupt Policitians and Banks Robbing the UK Blind and the Youth following their Exmaple by Robbing their Own Community.

Riots :hammer:

Reminds me of the 80(s) Wander if we will see the return of Football Hooliganism

I Predict More Riots
You 'predict' more riots - is that a euphemism for you'd ‘like to see more riots’? Facts are facts, this guy was carrying a gun. Nothing changes that. Now we have to listen to nonsense from so called community leaders that he was 'a good guy'. There are not many 'good guys' I know walking around London packing a gun. As for the thugs who smashed up shops, burned out homes and intimidated other members of the public, they did not do so out of some desire to fight for justice or to defend their community from a brutal police state. They did it because they have no morals, no values and could not care less about anyone but themselves (attitudes they have often picked up from their parents).

Where were they on the so called ‘peaceful march’? Only 150 people were concerned enough to attended that but there were certainly more people on the streets at midnight setting fire to police cars and looting. Local residents reported that some in the streets were as young as 9 and 10. Where were their parents? Therein lies another issue at the heart of all this. Too many young men going around town, knocking up girls and then taking no responsibility for their off-springs (it is interesting to note that Duggan's brother has a different surname. Ordinarily not a point worth making but in the context of the problems faced in inner cities around the UK it is relevant). Absent fathers in the black community has become a sub-culture of many parts of London – and of course we pay for it financially and as a society (bring on the accusations of racism now – or listen to Diane Abbot who says exactly the same thing). Young men need fathers to act as role models, not to flit in and out of their lives when it suits them (if at all). As for unemployment in the area, many of these same people don't work because it is a lifestyle choice - why do so when idiots like us go out to work and pay our taxes that in turn pay their benefits. Why get a job when it is easier to mug, burgle, deal drugs or rob from vulnerable people. When have they ever 'peacefully demonstrated' against the number of street crimes, burglaries, muggings, gang rapes? Never. Because they are not interested. Frankly, rather than police amnesties to take guns off the streets, they should give these scum bags more guns so they can shoot each other and be done with it.

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SWLGooner wrote:
JMascis666 wrote:
QuartzGooner wrote:Leyton Tescos looted
Holloway McDonalds looted
Kingsland Road looting
Green Lanes Sports Direct looted
Brixton Footlocker and Currys looted and Marks & Spencers set on fire
Chingford Curry's and Halford's looted, Morrison's reported on fire

Night of Infamy for London
I was on Kingsland Road a couple of hours ago, didn't see a dickie bird to be honest. But I am not the most observant of people. :)
No mate I've seen photos of the Kingsland Road stuff. Looting and windows smashed in the Dalton Kingsland shopping centre
Sorry I was at the other end near Hackney Road.

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Wake me up if it spreads to leafy surrey or fuck right off :lol:

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LDB wrote:Wake me up if it spreads to leafy surrey or fuck right off :lol:
:lol:

When they start looting the wheat from my local farmers fields i'll start worrying :roll: :wink:

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flash gunner wrote:
LDB wrote:Wake me up if it spreads to leafy surrey or fuck right off :lol:
:lol:

When they start looting the wheat from my local farmers fields i'll start worrying :roll: :wink:
Any yoof from the one estate in Putney kicking off? Fuck knows I'm 4,000 miles away :lol:

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Congrats for the riots guys. In my country if something like this happens, no one will do anything...

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goonerholic wrote:Congrats for the riots guys. In my country if something like this happens, no one will do anything...
oh yeah if us Brits are good at anything its shitting on our own doorstep

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goonerholic wrote:Congrats for the riots guys. In my country if something like this happens, no one will do anything...
"Congrats"??! Yes, we love our cities being torn apart by yobs. Glad you are enjoying it from afar.

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It looks like The Notting Hill Carnival will be "fun" this year!!!

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Rugby Gooner wrote:It looks like The Notting Hill Carnival will be "fun" this year!!!
Mancs away on the sunday, recovery on the monday, no fucking chance of me going anywhere near Notting Hill Carnival :D :barscarf:

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Then I'm going both days :lol:

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SWLGooner wrote:He shot at a copper, they shot him, good. He deserved it for shooting at one of them. Get over it you twats.

That's meant at the whiny bien pensants complaining not you lot btw.
He didnt shoot at the copper at all though. Ballistics have come back saying it was a police issue bullet. He shot at nobody, possibly didnt even pull a gun or even possess one and was shot dead in cold blood.

I think we need to take the facts into consideration first. Clearly a young man father of four was killed, and then the circumstances have been fabricated by the police, not the first time this has happened eg Tomlinson or murder of the Brazilian man after 7/7 both by the Met.

When the police blatantly lie, there is no reason to believe them until the facts of the case are established. Thomas Mitchell I think you are wide of the mark in some of your views.

As for the riots the last view nights. Things like this snowball. There are of course alot of criminals and scum that use this sort of thing as a hobby. But there is also the fact, that alot of young people now have very little going for them and because of college fees and several other factors, have little chance to better themselves. There are alot of angry people at the system out there.

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Irish Gooner wrote:
SWLGooner wrote:He shot at a copper, they shot him, good. He deserved it for shooting at one of them. Get over it you twats.

That's meant at the whiny bien pensants complaining not you lot btw.
He didnt shoot at the copper at all though. Ballistics have come back saying it was a police issue bullet. He shot at nobody, possibly didnt even pull a gun or even possess one and was shot dead in cold blood.

I think we need to take the facts into consideration first. Clearly a young man father of four was killed, and then the circumstances have been fabricated by the police, not the first time this has happened eg Tomlinson or murder of the Brazilian man after 7/7 both by the Met.

When the police blatantly lie, there is no reason to believe them until the facts of the case are established. Thomas Mitchell I think you are wide of the mark in some of your views.

As for the riots the last view nights. Things like this snowball. There are of course alot of criminals and scum that use this sort of thing as a hobby. But there is also the fact, that alot of young people now have very little going for them and because of college fees and several other factors, have little chance to better themselves. There are alot of angry people at the system out there.
Please explain to me where I am "wide of the mark"?

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You say listen to Diane Abbott that absent black fathers is the root of the problem. I say she is full of shite, and not a person I would be quoting in such a situation.

You also go onto to nearly justify the shooting of Mark Duggan, claiming who cares if he was a good guy? Clearly if the man did not shoot the gun then you assumed wrong in the first place, and once more are assuming wrong again. There is no evidence thus far that he even had a gun or at the very least pulled it out.

As I said before the police, have lied about this case and wrongly killed people before as the examples I have presented before.

I believe the Met police are quite incompetent. Their dog handlers are the worst, I believe an inhumane way to treat a dog and as for basically setting them on innocent people letting them maul people to bits ie At football matches were we all see it, which is completely unneeded. God help you if you fall because they will let the dog attack your face. People need to defend themselves, there is no need for these dogs in current society.

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Irish Gooner wrote:You say listen to Diane Abbott that absent black fathers is the root of the problem. I say she is full of shite, and not a person I would be quoting in such a situation.

You also go onto to nearly justify the shooting of Mark Duggan, claiming who cares if he was a good guy? Clearly if the man did not shoot the gun then you assumed wrong in the first place, and once more are assuming wrong again. There is no evidence thus far that he even had a gun or at the very least pulled it out.

As I said before the police, have lied about this case and wrongly killed people before as the examples I have presented before.

I believe the Met police are quite incompetent. Their dog handlers are the worst, I believe an inhumane way to treat a dog and as for basically setting them on innocent people letting them maul people to bits ie At football matches were we all see it, which is completely unneeded. God help you if you fall because they will let the dog attack your face. People need to defend themselves, there is no need for these dogs in current society.
Diane Abbott - you don't like/respect her so that is proof I am way of the mark? If you don't accept that absent fathers is part of the problem then so be it but it is the truth. Fact is young men who have no father active in their lives are more likely to fail at school, fail in employment and have a criminal record.

Good guy - no one who carries a gun is a good guy. He has been in trouble with the police before. So how am I of the mark?

The police have lied - so that is proof they are lying now?

Dog handlers - you have obviously researched this and compared their dog handling skills to those of many police authorities across the world, so I will have to take your word for it.

The reality is that too many people, like you, are prepared to act as apologists for these people. Usually the most guilty of this (ironically) are white, middle class do-gooders who live far from the incidents but are desperate to prove their PC credentials.

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