Is Chamakh the worst Arsenal striker ever?

[TeeCee]

Mary Ann is definitely up there with Hankin, Hawley and Chapman. You could also throw in another Wenger special - Tomas Danivelicious or whatever his name was!! :D.

[flash gunner]

I used to think that Kaba was alright and just unlucky but just googled him to see how he did after us and i think this sums it up....

1999 Arsenal 12 apps 0 goals
1999 Marseille 15 apps 0 goals
2000–2003 Paris Saint-Germain 14 apps 0 goals
2001 → Blackburn Rovers (loan) 5 apps 0 goals
2001 → West Ham United (loan) 11 apps 0 goals

So as a striker young Kaba went two years and 57 games without a single goal for five different clubs. Thats some record!!!

Maybe Arsene didnt know back then either

[SPARKSY]

[quote="SteveO 35"]There's been a few Red, but I must say this past 12 months old Mary Ann has been doing his best to join a list that would certainly include Lee Chapman, but also take in John Hawley and Ray Hankin (who probably gets the vote).

I think the boys of the 80s mentioned above were probably all worse than Chamakh, but he certainly did produce another Chapman-esque performance the other night[/




John Hawley (nice tache) and Ray Hankin. Now they were quality strikers!!

To be fair to Hawley i did read somewhere before that although the fans were onhis case, he knew he wasn't good enough for the Arsenal but just went out and played and tried his best.

[Rocky Number Seven]

I used to think that Kaba was alright and just unlucky but just googled him to see how he did after us and i think this sums it up....

1999 Arsenal 12 apps 0 goals
1999 Marseille 15 apps 0 goals
2000–2003 Paris Saint-Germain 14 apps 0 goals
2001 → Blackburn Rovers (loan) 5 apps 0 goals
2001 → West Ham United (loan) 11 apps 0 goals

So as a striker young Kaba went two years and 57 games without a single goal for five different clubs. Thats some record!!!

Maybe Arsene didnt know back then either

Oh he knew... its just that signing Kanu killed his progress. Thats why he wont make the same mistake again with Park/Chamakh.

[kiwomya]

How Bergkamp ever got games ahead of Kiwomya always bothered me.

[DB10GOONER]

There's been a few Red, but I must say this past 12 months old Mary Ann has been doing his best to join a list that would certainly include Lee Chapman, but also take in John Hawley and Ray Hankin (who probably gets the vote).

Kaba Diawara was possibly the unluckiest striker I've seen in my time watching Arsenal.

Towards the end of his spell with us Christopher Wreh was truly awful as well.

I think the boys of the 80s mentioned above were probably all worse than Chamakh, but he certainly did produce another Chapman-esque performance the other night

Remember Kaba in that game at Leeds? He hit the post 143 times that day. Poor fucker had no luck whatsoever.

Luck or was he just shite? Hitting the post is as much of a goal as missing by 10 foot.... Not bad luck Kaba was a ***** striker and a fore runner of Mr.Knows ability to pick a lemon

Certainly his finishing was poor but his movement was good and his touch decent. Maybe a decent second striker could have been made of him? Sometimes the difference between a good striker and a shit one can be as close as a *BrazilianGOONER...

Henry ran more in his first 2 minutes on the pitch than Chamakh did all night.
when I say he is the worst striker ever you also have to take into account his general commitment and work rate. It is non existent. I booed him on and cheered him off



*a really really small amount!

I was talking about Kaba not Chamakh...

and learn to quote properly!!

[arseofacrow]

Remember Kaba in that game at Leeds? He hit the post 143 times that day. Poor fucker had no luck whatsoever.

Luck or was he just shite? Hitting the post is as much of a goal as missing by 10 foot.... Not bad luck Kaba was a ***** striker and a fore runner of Mr.Knows ability to pick a lemon

Certainly his finishing was poor but his movement was good and his touch decent. Maybe a decent second striker could have been made of him? Sometimes the difference between a good striker and a shit one can be as close as a *BrazilianGOONER...

Henry ran more in his first 2 minutes on the pitch than Chamakh did all night.
when I say he is the worst striker ever you also have to take into account his general commitment and work rate. It is non existent. I booed him on and cheered him off



*a really really small amount!

I was talking about Kaba not Chamakh...

and learn to quote properly!!

Ban him!

[augie]

If we are talking about high profile then "the beast" must surely rank up there as one of the worst If you recall wenger was spending big money the season before but baptista turned him down only to join a year later on loan anyway. If we had of spent big money on the *word censored* then it surely would have been one of the worst deals ever and certainly worse than jeffers

[flash gunner]

I used to think that Kaba was alright and just unlucky but just googled him to see how he did after us and i think this sums it up....

1999 Arsenal 12 apps 0 goals
1999 Marseille 15 apps 0 goals
2000–2003 Paris Saint-Germain 14 apps 0 goals
2001 → Blackburn Rovers (loan) 5 apps 0 goals
2001 → West Ham United (loan) 11 apps 0 goals

So as a striker young Kaba went two years and 57 games without a single goal for five different clubs. Thats some record!!!

Maybe Arsene didnt know back then either

Oh he knew... its just that signing Kanu killed his progress. Thats why he wont make the same mistake again with Park/Chamakh.

Fair enough

[brazilianGOONER]

If we are talking about high profile then "the beast" must surely rank up there as one of the worst If you recall wenger was spending big money the season before but baptista turned him down only to join a year later on loan anyway. If we had of spent big money on the c**t then it surely would have been one of the worst deals ever and certainly worse than jeffers

i disagree augie. baptista had great moments in his career (it's not for no reason that he has so many caps for brazil). i watched him here in brazil when he still played for são paulo, their attack was julio baptista and luis fabiano - they were amazing together. baptista was the physically strongest player i'd ever seen (a title that belongs to hulk now surely) and if you look at his spell in sevilla he scored something around a goal every 2,5 matches or so, which is no bad thing.

i agree that he was dreadful at arsenal, but one of the reasons is because his style of football is the exact opposite of what we play. i'm not saying he's a super striker - actually he's played a lot as a midfielder in his career - but i don't think he's a terrible player.

he is, for example, a hundred and ninety eight times better than emile heskey ever was...

from the time i watched the arsenal, my vote obviously has to go to jeffers.

[lowerwest]

fabian caballero
tomas
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[QuartzGooner]

Clive Allen, not a single competitive goal but he cost about £1m!

Seriously though, I think Chamakh (post Christmas 2010) is appalling, but he might prosper at another club in another league if his problem is psychological.

Niall Quinn used to take a lot of flack from our fans, but eventually became a decent player.

[augie]

If we are talking about high profile then "the beast" must surely rank up there as one of the worst If you recall wenger was spending big money the season before but baptista turned him down only to join a year later on loan anyway. If we had of spent big money on the c**t then it surely would have been one of the worst deals ever and certainly worse than jeffers

i disagree augie. baptista had great moments in his career (it's not for no reason that he has so many caps for brazil). i watched him here in brazil when he still played for são paulo, their attack was julio baptista and luis fabiano - they were amazing together. baptista was the physically strongest player i'd ever seen (a title that belongs to hulk now surely) and if you look at his spell in sevilla he scored something around a goal every 2,5 matches or so, which is no bad thing.

i agree that he was dreadful at arsenal, but one of the reasons is because his style of football is the exact opposite of what we play. i'm not saying he's a super striker - actually he's played a lot as a midfielder in his career - but i don't think he's a terrible player.

he is, for example, a hundred and ninety eight times better than emile heskey ever was...

from the time i watched the arsenal, my vote obviously has to go to jeffers.

Firstly bg I was only talking about how shit he was for us - as you say he was very good for seville (although not so much for roma or madrid maybe ?) but then jeffers was good for everton and chapman was good for leeds and sheffield wed (when he wasnt have domestic issues of course ).

Secondly I would concede on the point about how he couldnt be a bad player after representing brazil so many times if that point had been made by anybody else but you - does the name felipo melo ring any bells for you ?

[brazilianGOONER]

If we are talking about high profile then "the beast" must surely rank up there as one of the worst If you recall wenger was spending big money the season before but baptista turned him down only to join a year later on loan anyway. If we had of spent big money on the c**t then it surely would have been one of the worst deals ever and certainly worse than jeffers

i disagree augie. baptista had great moments in his career (it's not for no reason that he has so many caps for brazil). i watched him here in brazil when he still played for são paulo, their attack was julio baptista and luis fabiano - they were amazing together. baptista was the physically strongest player i'd ever seen (a title that belongs to hulk now surely) and if you look at his spell in sevilla he scored something around a goal every 2,5 matches or so, which is no bad thing.

i agree that he was dreadful at arsenal, but one of the reasons is because his style of football is the exact opposite of what we play. i'm not saying he's a super striker - actually he's played a lot as a midfielder in his career - but i don't think he's a terrible player.

he is, for example, a hundred and ninety eight times better than emile heskey ever was...

from the time i watched the arsenal, my vote obviously has to go to jeffers.

Firstly bg I was only talking about how shit he was for us - as you say he was very good for seville (although not so much for roma or madrid maybe ?) but then jeffers was good for everton and chapman was good for leeds and sheffield wed (when he wasnt have domestic issues of course ).

Secondly I would concede on the point about how he couldnt be a bad player after representing brazil so many times if that point had been made by anybody else but you - does the name felipo melo ring any bells for you ?

fucking hell, felipe melo. you know what, forget about what i posted, ok?

[donaldo]

Yes he's up there with the likes of Chapman Hawley Hankin Diawarra and Jeffers(10 fuckin million).

I keep seeing the name Christopher Wreh turn up.Yes he wasnt great but in the 1998 double run in he scored the only goal in wins at Bolton and Wimbledon and the winner in the cup semi final v Wolves.Something those above could only dream of doing.And he was George Weah's cousin