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rebel gooner wrote:
DB10GOONER wrote:We did this thread last year and I'm still answering the same; Club very time.
was thinking the same about this thread,,
suppose a lot of stuff we do now is recycled due to the amount of newbies on here 8)

where the veterans now DB10,, be looking for a testimonial soon :wink:
I know, Reb. Feel doubly old now!! :wink:

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Club first
Club second, and
Club third.

I really don't give a flying f*ck about England! Over-rated bunch of egotistical prima donnas :roll:
Apart from Gerrard, who would we take for our team, nobody!
International football fucks up our season. We lose players every time there is an international break and we never play well immediately after one.

I propose that all internationals are banned throughout the regular season, thus allowing the season to finish 3 weeks earlier, after which the players go off and play for their countries for a month. Everyone benefits as we don't lose players mid season, our continuity doesn't suffer and the national teams get a sustained period of time together to enable them to play as a team. Until that happens I say f*ck England, Love Arsenal!!!

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as a pround irish man, id luv Ireland 2 be sucessfull, ie actually qualifying for a tournament would be a start, but given the choice between arsenal and eire, arsenal win hands down any day.

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My priorities:

1. Arsenal
2. Arsenal
3. Arsenal
4. Arsenal
5. Arsenal
6. Arsenal
7. Arsenal reserves
8. Arsenal women's team
9. Chelsea losing
10. England

Even though I've been to plenty of England games, including a few abroad, I think I've always felt club is more important, even pre-Wenger, but the current generation of complete wankers in the England side (Lampard, Rooney, Ferdinand, Cole etc) only makes me less interested in the national side.

There's always been a divide between club-oriented fans of sides in the top division and country-oriented fans of lower division sides, which has become wider with the influx of foreign players and coaches.

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I'm still of the feeling that Club rules country. I couldn't give a fuck if Big Fat Frank and that bunch of wasters won something with England. I'm never gonna cheer for Gary Neville, Rooney etc. Arsenal all the way.
During the world cup European Champs all i look for is France and any Arsenal player to do well.

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Club come first for me.

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i must admit i'm slightly surprised, having said there the fact there are no arsenal players in the regular squad, doesn't, and i'm not having a dig before any one starts, so do you get the arse when we sing things like stick your fcuking england up your arse and argentina?

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tenementfunster5 wrote:I'm still of the feeling that Club rules country. I couldn't give a fuck if Big Fat Frank and that bunch of wasters won something with England. I'm never gonna cheer for Gary Neville, Rooney etc. Arsenal all the way.
During the world cup European Champs all i look for is France and any Arsenal player to do well.
Exactly, it'd be hypocritical for me to wish a violent and slow death on Lumpard, the Granny Shagger and the Rent Boy the majority of the season but cheer them on for a few weeks a year. I'd feel dirty! Imagine chanting Rooney's name, argh! Club, all the fucking way!

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Exactly, it'd be hypocritical for me to wish a violent and slow death on Lumpard, the Granny Shagger and the Rent Boy the majority of the season but cheer them on for a few weeks a year. I'd feel dirty! Imagine chanting Rooney's name, argh! Club, all the fucking way![/quote]

my thoughts exactly, obviously not rooney though :wink: :wink: no way can i cheer on the scouse bastard gerrard, when we chant about him, or terry or fat frank like you say, just cos they have an england shirt

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ARSENAL

I am quite anti-patriotic and anti-nationalistic anyway.

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Post by This Is The Daybreak »

Arsenal every time

I'm a Scotland fan anyway (Mothers english, fathers scottish and was born in england) and have taken a dislike to the England national team in recent years due to Rooney, Lampard, Cashley....so Arsenal>Scotland>England

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SPUDMASHER wrote:
I propose that all internationals are banned throughout the regular season, thus allowing the season to finish 3 weeks earlier, after which the players go off and play for their countries for a month. Everyone benefits as we don't lose players mid season, our continuity doesn't suffer and the national teams get a sustained period of time together to enable them to play as a team. Until that happens I say f*ck England, Love Arsenal!!!
Kakastian would have to leave football then and how well would African nations cope with that? Would the poorer nations get less money because of it, fans having to pay for a bunch of games together rather then having it spread round?
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Me personally I prefer when england dont even qualify for the world cup much less win it :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Seriously though I would prefer to see Arsenal succeed above Ireland every day of the week. To be honest I rarely even watch Ireland anymore-when you see robbie keane as your captain and you see them allowing roy keane back in your national team it more or less finished me with international football. Mind you as bad as our situation is I hate to look at the likes of fat frank,rio, gerrard,cashly etc representing me :roll: If they are that fcuking arrogant when they won fcuk all can you imagine what they would be like if they were successful :roll: :x

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Magic Hat wrote:
SPUDMASHER wrote:
I propose that all internationals are banned throughout the regular season, thus allowing the season to finish 3 weeks earlier, after which the players go off and play for their countries for a month. Everyone benefits as we don't lose players mid season, our continuity doesn't suffer and the national teams get a sustained period of time together to enable them to play as a team. Until that happens I say f*ck England, Love Arsenal!!!
Kakastian would have to leave football then and how well would African nations cope with that? Would the poorer nations get less money because of it, fans having to pay for a bunch of games together rather then having it spread round?
I don't really care about them. I care that every time there is a mid season break for internationals at least one Arsenal player returns injured. It pisses me off that we then have to pay for a player that is injured through no fault of the club and risk losing games because we cannot field our strongest 11. We don't have the quality in depth to cover that happening. As regards the fans paying to see the games all at once, so what? They could sell an international season ticket for home games couldn't they? Club fans pay it so why not international ones? Also they would probably see better football than the crap we normally churn out if the national team has had some time training together.

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Not international fans fault if we don't have squad depth, besides we get compensation for it which hopefully the super rich Togo never has to pay instead of Fifa, but refs have to get paid, coaching courses get money, youth systems set up, youth tournaments organised and so on and so on. Our much derided FA is trying to ensure that every child club including Sunday League sides have a Welfare Officer with them to protect the children among other things while also doing it's best to help poorer nations out. I think it means a lot more to a player in Kakastein that he can play England then it does that we might have to lose... say Van Persie on any given international game and replace him with Dudu. Or that players in Iraq can play, can escape the troubles and for a few hours maybe give the people of Iraq an escape from the trouble, meanwhile their Fa gaining money to rebuild and helped out by other Fa's. Insert any poor or striven country there

Could people in the poorer nations afford a season ticket when all these games happen at once, the Fa's needing to make a profit and so all the matches that take place over a year being charged for over a month? and remind me what happened at the world cup when the players had plenty of time to prepare? We got dire matches as well as good ones, preparation is good but they have enough time as it is before each game. The current situation is less then perfect but if this way ensures more money ends up allowing people to play football then so be it.

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