Van Persie saga, officially not extending contract.

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Well my weekend starts tomorrow so golf ,pub

Sat football then straight to v festival

Sun v festival

Plan is to get shitfaced everyday so yes sorted For weekend then back to online gooner on Monday doing this :banghead:

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SantaPoldi wrote:
augie wrote:
SantaPoldi wrote:JD is the biggest WUM on the Forum. When you don't post and just read (as I've done for the past 6 months) you get a better sense of perspective. It's all a big game to him.


Don't agree with that - we disagree on almost everything AFC at the moment but I don't doubt that his posts are genuine feelings even though I don't agree with them and sometimes am baffled by them :lol:
We don't all have to have the same thoughts on Arsenal matters to be genuine Gooners and this place would quickly die a death if we were all the same
Disagree. Will only debate points that are objective-based i.e can't be proven either way. Anything to do with facts he side-steps. Calls my point about making the most out of commercial deals moronic. Is it not fair that as a team selling its best players every year and not competing for the title, we won't make as much as say United or City?? How is that moronic? It's basic marketing /business sense. If he thinks that the panacea for our woes is signing new sponsorship deals in 2014, then he's deluded.

I agree 100% agree with you re the marketing strategy for commercial deals and it is a point that I have been making for two years now - the club value to potential sponsors will have decreased dramatically after 7 trophy less seasons so the major windfall that was predicted a few years ago will def not happen and we may even see a decrease in our commercial income. It has always baffled me how short sighted the people running our club are cos companies want to be associated with winners and we show nothing that suggests we are going to become winners again anytime soon :cry:

All that being said I still don't believe that highburyjd is a wum

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Seriously, what's done is done. Van Persie is now one of the biggest *word censor*'s in Arsenal's history but we can't dwell on that.

Now they have a granny shagger and a xxxxxxxxxxxx leading their front line. We have a nutcase *Podolski* and a giant *Giroud*

MODS NOTE: Leave it out! That sort of thing can get us shut down.

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SantaPoldi wrote:
augie wrote:
SantaPoldi wrote:JD is the biggest WUM on the Forum. When you don't post and just read (as I've done for the past 6 months) you get a better sense of perspective. It's all a big game to him.


Don't agree with that - we disagree on almost everything AFC at the moment but I don't doubt that his posts are genuine feelings even though I don't agree with them and sometimes am baffled by them :lol:
We don't all have to have the same thoughts on Arsenal matters to be genuine Gooners and this place would quickly die a death if we were all the same
Disagree. Will only debate points that are objective-based i.e can't be proven either way. Anything to do with facts he side-steps. Calls my point about making the most out of commercial deals moronic. Is it not fair that as a team selling its best players every year and not competing for the title, we won't make as much as say United or City?? How is that moronic? It's basic marketing /business sense. If he thinks that the panacea for our woes is signing new sponsorship deals in 2014, then he's deluded.
On an isolated point about the commercial deals, I hardly think they're going to make us #1 in the PL again. That said, we currently get less money than Spurs from kit sponsorship, and it doesn't take a marketing expert to see that we got a poor deal in the long run to help finance the stadium. Look at the deal Liverpool have just got, and they're really a club in decline and with little realistic prospect of getting back into CL this season. They sold their best player (Torres) along with their other best players like Alonso, Mascherano, Meireles, Benayoun and Bellamy, and Gerrard isn't half the marketing dream he was five years ago.

We sell out to 60k fans more or less every game, have a considerable global fan base and are CL regulars. Criticise the club as much as you like but we are still one of the best-known and best-supported clubs in world football. Shirt sales and getting the sponsors brand on global TV is what they're interested in, not whether or not players are coming or going. Sponsors are only interested in transfers if they're going to affect the team so badly as to make a huge commercial exposure difference (e.g. CL qualification).

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northbank123 wrote:
SantaPoldi wrote:
augie wrote:
SantaPoldi wrote:JD is the biggest WUM on the Forum. When you don't post and just read (as I've done for the past 6 months) you get a better sense of perspective. It's all a big game to him.


Don't agree with that - we disagree on almost everything AFC at the moment but I don't doubt that his posts are genuine feelings even though I don't agree with them and sometimes am baffled by them :lol:
We don't all have to have the same thoughts on Arsenal matters to be genuine Gooners and this place would quickly die a death if we were all the same
Disagree. Will only debate points that are objective-based i.e can't be proven either way. Anything to do with facts he side-steps. Calls my point about making the most out of commercial deals moronic. Is it not fair that as a team selling its best players every year and not competing for the title, we won't make as much as say United or City?? How is that moronic? It's basic marketing /business sense. If he thinks that the panacea for our woes is signing new sponsorship deals in 2014, then he's deluded.
On an isolated point about the commercial deals, I hardly think they're going to make us #1 in the PL again. That said, we currently get less money than Spurs from kit sponsorship, and it doesn't take a marketing expert to see that we got a poor deal in the long run to help finance the stadium. Look at the deal Liverpool have just got, and they're really a club in decline and with little realistic prospect of getting back into CL this season. They sold their best player (Torres) along with their other best players like Alonso, Mascherano, Meireles, Benayoun and Bellamy, and Gerrard isn't half the marketing dream he was five years ago.

We sell out to 60k fans more or less every game, have a considerable global fan base and are CL regulars. Criticise the club as much as you like but we are still one of the best-known and best-supported clubs in world football. Shirt sales and getting the sponsors brand on global TV is what they're interested in, not whether or not players are coming or going. Sponsors are only interested in transfers if they're going to affect the team so badly as to make a huge commercial exposure difference (e.g. CL qualification).

Like it or not Liverpool are a bigger global brand in world football than us. 18 Titles and 5 European Cups proves that.

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northbank123 wrote:
SantaPoldi wrote:
augie wrote:
SantaPoldi wrote:JD is the biggest WUM on the Forum. When you don't post and just read (as I've done for the past 6 months) you get a better sense of perspective. It's all a big game to him.


Don't agree with that - we disagree on almost everything AFC at the moment but I don't doubt that his posts are genuine feelings even though I don't agree with them and sometimes am baffled by them :lol:
We don't all have to have the same thoughts on Arsenal matters to be genuine Gooners and this place would quickly die a death if we were all the same
Disagree. Will only debate points that are objective-based i.e can't be proven either way. Anything to do with facts he side-steps. Calls my point about making the most out of commercial deals moronic. Is it not fair that as a team selling its best players every year and not competing for the title, we won't make as much as say United or City?? How is that moronic? It's basic marketing /business sense. If he thinks that the panacea for our woes is signing new sponsorship deals in 2014, then he's deluded.
On an isolated point about the commercial deals, I hardly think they're going to make us #1 in the PL again. That said, we currently get less money than Spurs from kit sponsorship, and it doesn't take a marketing expert to see that we got a poor deal in the long run to help finance the stadium. Look at the deal Liverpool have just got, and they're really a club in decline and with little realistic prospect of getting back into CL this season. They sold their best player (Torres) along with their other best players like Alonso, Mascherano, Meireles, Benayoun and Bellamy, and Gerrard isn't half the marketing dream he was five years ago.

We sell out to 60k fans more or less every game, have a considerable global fan base and are CL regulars. Criticise the club as much as you like but we are still one of the best-known and best-supported clubs in world football. Shirt sales and getting the sponsors brand on global TV is what they're interested in, not whether or not players are coming or going. Sponsors are only interested in transfers if they're going to affect the team so badly as to make a huge commercial exposure difference (e.g. CL qualification).
Like any of the extra finances would go to improving the squad

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Arsenal Till I Die wrote:Seriously, what's done is done. Van Persie is now one of the biggest *word censor*'s in Arsenal's history but we can't dwell on that.

Now they have a granny shagger and a xxxxxxx leading their front line. We have a nutcase *Podolski* and a giant *Giroud*
sad

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SantaPoldi wrote:
northbank123 wrote:
SantaPoldi wrote:
augie wrote:
SantaPoldi wrote:JD is the biggest WUM on the Forum. When you don't post and just read (as I've done for the past 6 months) you get a better sense of perspective. It's all a big game to him.


Don't agree with that - we disagree on almost everything AFC at the moment but I don't doubt that his posts are genuine feelings even though I don't agree with them and sometimes am baffled by them :lol:
We don't all have to have the same thoughts on Arsenal matters to be genuine Gooners and this place would quickly die a death if we were all the same
Disagree. Will only debate points that are objective-based i.e can't be proven either way. Anything to do with facts he side-steps. Calls my point about making the most out of commercial deals moronic. Is it not fair that as a team selling its best players every year and not competing for the title, we won't make as much as say United or City?? How is that moronic? It's basic marketing /business sense. If he thinks that the panacea for our woes is signing new sponsorship deals in 2014, then he's deluded.
On an isolated point about the commercial deals, I hardly think they're going to make us #1 in the PL again. That said, we currently get less money than Spurs from kit sponsorship, and it doesn't take a marketing expert to see that we got a poor deal in the long run to help finance the stadium. Look at the deal Liverpool have just got, and they're really a club in decline and with little realistic prospect of getting back into CL this season. They sold their best player (Torres) along with their other best players like Alonso, Mascherano, Meireles, Benayoun and Bellamy, and Gerrard isn't half the marketing dream he was five years ago.

We sell out to 60k fans more or less every game, have a considerable global fan base and are CL regulars. Criticise the club as much as you like but we are still one of the best-known and best-supported clubs in world football. Shirt sales and getting the sponsors brand on global TV is what they're interested in, not whether or not players are coming or going. Sponsors are only interested in transfers if they're going to affect the team so badly as to make a huge commercial exposure difference (e.g. CL qualification).

Like it or not Liverpool are a bigger global brand in world football than us. 18 Titles and 5 European Cups proves that.
a) Your statement reinforces my point that it's not about player transfers in a footballing sense, it's about brand image, sponsorship exposure, fanbase etc.

b) That trophy reel could have come straight from any deluded Scousers' mouth. In the last few seasons they have had almost no exposure to European football, and have seen the club's name dragged through the mud to the point where the criticism in the States was becoming so serious that the owners were forced to intervene. As far as I'm aware, we are the football club with the most members in the world, appear on the TV screens of global audiences far more by virtue of the CL and I would imagine we do orite in global merchandise sales (not to mention the fact that we will presumably be re-selling the naming rights to the Emirates at the end of the current deal, which is unlikely to happen at Anfield unless they fancy a war). At best us and Liverpool are in the same league.

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swimmer1 wrote:
Like any of the extra finances would go to improving the squad

:)
Probably not but at least it might go towards not having to make such considerable profits on player sales which is a start.

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northbank123 wrote:
swimmer1 wrote:
Like any of the extra finances would go to improving the squad

:)
Probably not but at least it might go towards not having to make such considerable profits on player sales which is a start.
We are the so called 5th richest club in the world we make profit to line the fat cats pockets the extra cash will just make them deeper

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Worst traitor in Arsenal's history.

Lock this fucking shit thread.

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1989 wrote:Worst traitor in Arsenal's history.

Lock this fucking shit thread.
Stapleton has that honour in my book as we got shafted on the transfer fee. But this is close. And won't stop me calling our former striker "Robin van Staplecunt"

With Ashley Cole it's difficult to argue that he made the wrong decision. And we agreed the deal that sent him to Stamford Bridge. He tore up his Arsenal history but has made more at Chelsea.

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bunch wrote:
1989 wrote:Worst traitor in Arsenal's history.

Lock this fucking shit thread.
Stapleton has that honour in my book as we got shafted on the transfer fee. But this is close. And won't stop me calling our former striker "Robin van Staplecunt"

With Ashley Cole it's difficult to argue that he made the wrong decision. And we agreed the deal that sent him to Stamford Bridge. He tore up his Arsenal history but has made more at Chelsea.
Back then the rivalry wasn't the same as it has been in the last decade with the mancs.

What Van Pervie has done is the ultimate betrayal.

Break a leg you Dutch qunt. Or better yet, let Frimpong do it. :twisted:

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Deal has been officially confirmed....saw the creeps beaming grin when he met the plastic Manure fans...thought struck me ..will he applaud them after the Arsenal games this season when they have belted out their vile Pedophile song ? Remember Any Cole being caught on camera singing along with the Keegan song after the 1996 FA Cup Final.

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C#nt. Fuck him.

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