As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
VoiceOfReason wrote:I seem to recall Cardiff bringing 9,000 fans to the Emirates for the FA Cup replay in 2009 - do they have that many more fans than Swansea? Or is it, as I assume is the case, down to the fact that Swansea now play PL opposition every week, and that fans have already been busy coughing-up for the League Cup semis?
I think they do definitely have a bigger support who certainly enjoy 'away days'. I think they sold their 6,000 allocation at Stamford Bridge a few years back for a 4th round tie, and I remember them filling the Clock End at Highbury for a lunchtime kick-off in 2006 and the away end for that Monday night game in 2009.
But Swansea's success is undoubtedly a factor as well, this will be their 3rd trip to the Emirates in little over a year and they've obviously just played a Cup semi in London so I'm sure that'll have an impact.
Although if they did only take 2,000 for their first Cup semi in Christ knows how long (albeit 200 miles away on a week night) when they were entitled to 6,000 then that probably tells you the size of their following support.
SteveO 35 wrote:The club have made a real mess of this one. I've had half a dozen season ticket holders offer me their ticket for the game. January, midweek, on TV, sandwiched in between big league games. Category B = no empathy with supporters
Turn out will be max 45k. Should have offered kids for £5 or something
Great point. The club have not only pissed everyone off with the Cat B prices but they also missed out on a rare bit of good PR - kids for a fiver or something similar would have given them a rare bit of positive press during the current media and fans agenda against high ticket prices.
This is not unusual with Arsenal these days. They don't seem to realise that the occasional show of good faith can go a long way to maintaining good club/supporter relations. The £10 Emirates food vouchers for away fans who went to Wigan was a nice touch but not much over the course of a season.
I think it would be a good incentive to offer a red or silver member a free or reduced match ticket after using their membership a certain amount of times in a season. However I guess whilst the stadium sells out almost every game they see no need to recognise or reward loyalty.
SteveO 35 wrote:The club have made a real mess of this one. I've had half a dozen season ticket holders offer me their ticket for the game. January, midweek, on TV, sandwiched in between big league games. Category B = no empathy with supporters
Turn out will be max 45k. Should have offered kids for £5 or something
Great point. The club have not only pissed everyone off with the Cat B prices but they also missed out on a rare bit of good PR - kids for a fiver or something similar would have given them a rare bit of positive press during the current media and fans agenda against high ticket prices.
This is not unusual with Arsenal these days. They don't seem to realise that the occasional show of good faith can go a long way to maintaining good club/supporter relations. The £10 Emirates food vouchers for away fans who went to Wigan was a nice touch but not much over the course of a season.
I think it would be a good incentive to offer a red or silver member a free or reduced match ticket after using their membership a certain amount of times in a season. However I guess whilst the stadium sells out almost every game they see no need to recognise or reward loyalty.
This is where I think the FA have actually done something right with Ing-er-lund. They were able to fill the stadium for the San Marino match amazingly. They knew they had fuck all chance of filling that ground or probably even getting 50-60k on full prices so offered all sorts of concessions e.g. family tickets, priority for future games (like Brazil) etc.
This is what I hate about our commercial team i.e. they are not even very good ! I despise marketeers with a passion but even I recognise a good one from a shite one. Don't forget when we look at the wage bill for the club that includes the legion of goons that Gazidis has assembled to supposedly broaden the brand. Well Ivan, I hope those new found fans in the USA and Asia are packing out the 60k capacity stadium on a Thursday night against Apollon Limassol in the Europa League.
People seem to forget that these things move in cycles and that somehow football's appeal will never regress. Don't count on it. In the 1930s 75,000 packed out Highbury and 40 odd years later sub 20,000 crowds happened regularly for midweek games
SteveO 35 wrote:This is what I hate about our commercial team i.e. they are not even very good ! I despise marketeers with a passion but even I recognise a good one from a shite one.
True this, they are terrible. They seem to look at everything with the business brain of an 8 year old ie as much money as quick as possible, forget everything else. Totally useless, I bet they all get healthy annual bonuses too
I've merged the fans have had enough thread with the Swansea FA cup price thread as they are on the same subject. Also there is a shed load of stuff on this on the City thread.
Given my season ticket to my Dad for City and Liverpool...so I've bought one on my Silver for City but won't be for Liverpool...I can afford to but just don't want to pay £62 (+admin/book cost) to see Liverpool, they aren't category A, they don't draw the crowds like they used to. I did the same when WHU were category A three seasons ago...
SPARKSY wrote:When i found out my seat in the East Lower was just shy of £70 to watch a team playing for the 4th/5th place trophy, i thought bollocks to this.
Tried to offload it on the Ticket Exchnage but surprisingly no ones buying. Wonder why that is?
Maybe this proves what a lot of posters have been saying for ages - that an excellent way to get a bit of "attention" is a boycott or even the threat of a boycott.
Fair play to the blue Mancs. If nothing else they've re-opened the debate.
Just had an email from the club offering me tickets for Liverpool at home Reap what you sow. Serve up shit on the pitch & overcharge for it, people aren't gonna want to come and watch. It ain't rocket science.
Dan_85 wrote:Just had an email from the club offering me tickets for Liverpool at home Reap what you sow. Serve up shit on the pitch & overcharge for it, people aren't gonna want to come and watch. It ain't rocket science.
Again have had two ST holders already contact me about this one. Got the excuse of my son's birthday that evening to even turn down a freebie
Dan_85 wrote:Just had an email from the club offering me tickets for Liverpool at home Reap what you sow. Serve up shit on the pitch & overcharge for it, people aren't gonna want to come and watch. It ain't rocket science.
Again have had two ST holders already contact me about this one. Got the excuse of my son's birthday that evening to even turn down a freebie
Cheapest available ticket a bargain £72.50 plus £2.10 booking fee and £2.20 postage.
Dan_85 wrote:Just had an email from the club offering me tickets for Liverpool at home Reap what you sow. Serve up shit on the pitch & overcharge for it, people aren't gonna want to come and watch. It ain't rocket science.
Again have had two ST holders already contact me about this one. Got the excuse of my son's birthday that evening to even turn down a freebie
Cheapest available ticket a bargain £72.50 plus £2.10 booking fee and £2.20 postage.
There was a mini-feature on SSN earlier about our ticket pricing, and it irked me that the media keeps quoting this £62 figure, without even mentioning that this is the cheapest ticket available - I wish they'd make note of the £82+ tickets, because it would cause even more of a stir (and a rightly warranted one, too).
They also went through which teams were in which grades - I was shocked that Wigan is a Grade B whereas Sunderland is a Grade C. Arsenal vs. Sunderland is a classic English football fixture, whereas Wigan are a small club with no history and 20 fans. I've nothing against Wigan per se, but I just found it rather odd.