SUMMER TRANSFERS - Your thoughts on who did and did not sign

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don't say that to scum fans not sure they like him very much

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Bendtners Drinking Buddy wrote: We both agree there. As i say i like Giroud, i fully accept we need more there - but we have other areas that need more urgent attention.

We can all see it, its obvious, yet again and again noting changes - thats the real issue here.
Yup :(

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Bendtners Drinking Buddy wrote:
g88ner wrote:
Bendtners Drinking Buddy wrote:He was playing in a new team in a new system (he is MADE for 442 but the stubborn old git wont try it now and again) and im happy, my opinion is he did enough to warrant a place in the side. You can say "bizzare games" but we still had to score the goals, no? They still count! Moreover, the support around him on the flanks (Walcott / Podolski / Ramsey :roll: ) was awful at times, a Striker is sometimes only as good as the service.

I agree that Giroud is not World-class, Suarez is, but thats not what is stopping us from winning trophies right now - Suraez would be a luxury buy - we need to sort the fundamentals out first, because without that we will continue to be also-rans.
Fair enough, I thought there was some unusal scorelines that skewed things a little (6-1 vs. Southampton, 5-2 vs. Sp*rs, 7-3 vs. Newcastle, 5-2 vs. Reading, 5-1 vs. West Ham) but I guess that's something you either agree with or you don't, so fair enough if you disagree.

I do think we looked toothless for much of the season though. Again, you may disagree.

Also, you say Giroud is a 4-4-2 man (hinting that he's not suited to our system) yet you say you're happy to go into the season with Giroud? (resumably knowing full well he'll be used as a lone srtiker again..?)

I should add... I do like Giroud. I'm just not convinced he's the lone striker we need to fire us to glory.
We both agree there. As i say i like Giroud, i fully accept we need more there - but we have other areas that need more urgent attention.

We can all see it, its obvious, yet again and again noting changes - thats the real issue here.
I don't think that any one player would make as big an impact as signing a top striker. The difference between van Judas and Giroud was absolutely massive - the former scored bags of goals in a shite team whereas the latter bumbled around in a far more creative team with Podolski, Wilshere and Cazorla. I don't see signing a DM or a defender changing Wenger's whole outlook on defending, and let's face it it's tactics as much as personnel that's let us down defensively down the years.

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kiwomya wrote:
TeeCee wrote:
Whether you rated the players or not, the fact is we do always sign them....
That's because we always sell better players first!! Or occasionally afterwards when we know we are going to sell (RVP)!!!!!
I don't remember too many people moaning last summer after we signed Giroud, Podolski and Cazorla.
because alongside RVP those signing would have been a big big help,but with losing RVP it left a massive hole

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northbank123 wrote:
Bendtners Drinking Buddy wrote:
g88ner wrote:
Bendtners Drinking Buddy wrote:He was playing in a new team in a new system (he is MADE for 442 but the stubborn old git wont try it now and again) and im happy, my opinion is he did enough to warrant a place in the side. You can say "bizzare games" but we still had to score the goals, no? They still count! Moreover, the support around him on the flanks (Walcott / Podolski / Ramsey :roll: ) was awful at times, a Striker is sometimes only as good as the service.

I agree that Giroud is not World-class, Suarez is, but thats not what is stopping us from winning trophies right now - Suraez would be a luxury buy - we need to sort the fundamentals out first, because without that we will continue to be also-rans.
Fair enough, I thought there was some unusal scorelines that skewed things a little (6-1 vs. Southampton, 5-2 vs. Sp*rs, 7-3 vs. Newcastle, 5-2 vs. Reading, 5-1 vs. West Ham) but I guess that's something you either agree with or you don't, so fair enough if you disagree.

I do think we looked toothless for much of the season though. Again, you may disagree.

Also, you say Giroud is a 4-4-2 man (hinting that he's not suited to our system) yet you say you're happy to go into the season with Giroud? (resumably knowing full well he'll be used as a lone srtiker again..?)

I should add... I do like Giroud. I'm just not convinced he's the lone striker we need to fire us to glory.
We both agree there. As i say i like Giroud, i fully accept we need more there - but we have other areas that need more urgent attention.

We can all see it, its obvious, yet again and again noting changes - thats the real issue here.
I don't think that any one player would make as big an impact as signing a top striker. The difference between van Judas and Giroud was absolutely massive - the former scored bags of goals in a shite team whereas the latter bumbled around in a far more creative team with Podolski, Wilshere and Cazorla. I don't see signing a DM or a defender changing Wenger's whole outlook on defending, and let's face it it's tactics as much as personnel that's let us down defensively down the years.
Not going to jump on the Giroud Band wagon yes the gulf between JVP and Giroud is massive but he was here 9 years think Giroud has done ok in his first season not his thought he been thrown into the first team straight away and scored a few in the process JVP had some good players to learn from Giroud has none .

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lets just pray for a sound thrashing against citeh this weekend to really give Wenker a kick in the nut sack,when is it by the way??

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markyp wrote:lets just pray for a sound thrashing against citeh this weekend to really give Wenker a kick in the nut sack,when is it by the way??
Saturday, 3pm. Not sure if it's on tv though. :?

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g88ner wrote:
markyp wrote:lets just pray for a sound thrashing against citeh this weekend to really give Wenker a kick in the nut sack,when is it by the way??
Saturday, 3pm. Not sure if it's on tv though. :?
cheers,must be on streaming tho?? :roll:

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markyp wrote:
g88ner wrote:
markyp wrote:lets just pray for a sound thrashing against citeh this weekend to really give Wenker a kick in the nut sack,when is it by the way??
Saturday, 3pm. Not sure if it's on tv though. :?
cheers,must be on streaming tho?? :roll:
Of course. In which case, it'll be a piece of piss to find although when live on major channels (sky, BT, ESPN, etc.) I tend to find higher quality streams are available.

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Now Miquel has gone on loan to Leicester now only 2 fit CB can please someone tell me what is going on :?

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swimmer1 wrote:Now Miquel has gone on loan to Leicester now only 2 fit CB can please someone tell me what is going on :?
It's good news, mate! 8) We're clearly signing a centre back - what else could be going on? :lol:

The only alternative is Wenger genuinely sees Sagna at a 4th choice centre back and intends to sign a RB instead, although that seems unlikely to me.

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g88ner wrote:
swimmer1 wrote:Now Miquel has gone on loan to Leicester now only 2 fit CB can please someone tell me what is going on :?
It's good news, mate! 8) We're clearly signing a centre back - what else could be going on? :lol:

The only alterNative is Wenger genuinely sees Sagna at a 4th choice centre back and intends to sign a RB instead, although that seems unlikely to me.

Good news about Miquel going though - I thought that would happen after he didn't start either Emirates Cup game. We're definitely signing a defender now :barscarf:
Lets hope so seen many times before and end up with nothing can we just buy then put people on loan or to sell like most teams .

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swimmer1 wrote:
g88ner wrote:
swimmer1 wrote:Now Miquel has gone on loan to Leicester now only 2 fit CB can please someone tell me what is going on :?
It's good news, mate! 8) We're clearly signing a centre back - what else could be going on? :lol:

The only alterNative is Wenger genuinely sees Sagna at a 4th choice centre back and intends to sign a RB instead, although that seems unlikely to me.

Good news about Miquel going though - I thought that would happen after he didn't start either Emirates Cup game. We're definitely signing a defender now :barscarf:
Lets hope so seen many times before and end up with nothing can we just buy then put people on loan or to sell like most teams .
Sagna fourth choice centre back.

Jenkinson and Yennaris to be the right backs, Bellerin to push for a Carling Cup place.

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swimmer1 wrote:
g88ner wrote:
swimmer1 wrote:Now Miquel has gone on loan to Leicester now only 2 fit CB can please someone tell me what is going on :?
It's good news, mate! 8) We're clearly signing a centre back - what else could be going on? :lol:

The only alternative is Wenger genuinely sees Sagna at a 4th choice centre back and intends to sign a RB instead, although that seems unlikely to me.
Lets hope so seen many times before and end up with nothing
I'm certain. There's now way Wenger would lose Squillaci, and loan out Djourou/Miquel without bringing in someone else... probably :? :lol:

The only worry I have is that we'll sign a 4th choice squad player when what I'd love to see is a defender to forge a lasting partnership with Koscienly. A defender who doesn't have the turning circle and agility of the QE2 and doesn't have brain farts like Vermaelen. You know, someone DEPENDABLE!

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QuartzGooner wrote:
Sagna fourth choice centre back.

Jenkinson and Yennaris to be the right backs, Bellerin to push for a Carling Cup place.
Oh, bollocks... so there is an "internal solution" :( :banghead: :lol:

(still think we'll make an underwhelming defensive signing though :wink: )

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