THE ARSENAL TRADITIONS

[g88ner]

Tradition my arse.What tradition was there when they changed the badge and turned the cannon the other way round? what tradition was there when our away kit a couple of year ago was like the Spuds home kit.No tradition goes out the window when money is involved

Nothing new there then. How many badge and name changes have we had down the years? how many stadium moves? how many dodgy kits? hell, we even moved boroughs! how's that for breaking with tradition? meh, moaning for moaning sake.

You'd probably be moaning at Herbert Chapman's innovations if he was around now. I can almost imagine it now, "floodlights? what do we need them for? no tradition goes out the window when money is involved"

[LDB]

Tradition my arse.What tradition was there when they changed the badge and turned the cannon the other way round? what tradition was there when our away kit a couple of year ago was like the Spuds home kit.No tradition goes out the window when money is involved

Nothing new there then. How many badge and name changes have we had down the years? how many stadium moves? how many dodgy kits? hell, we even moved boroughs! how's that for breaking with tradition? meh, moaning for moaning sake.

You'd probably be moaning at Herbert Chapman's innovations if he was around now. I can almost imagine it now, "floodlights? what do we need them for? no tradition goes out the window when money is involved"

Agreed. A lot of people seem to confuse "arsenal tradition" with "the way things were in the 80s".

[northbank123]

'Traditions' change in time, and as has been said above ground moves and crest changes have been almost forgotten in favour of more modern history. Some last longer than others but ultimately most traditions do come and go, and it's not always a bad thing. The current mob would do well to learn a lot of lessons from Graham's teams, but ultimately ditching the ultra-defensive outlook that Arsenal had become synonymous was for the best and allowed us to move on, paving the way for phenomenal success.

That said we haven't actually been building any traditions since we moved, just eschewing existing ones without moving forward. The Graham days left Arsenal with the image of a highly professional club with an industrious ethic; the first decade of Wenger's reign gave us the image of being a dynamic team who played fantastic football and could play anyone off the park. In years to come all this period will be remembered for is 'profits not trophies' and us being a bunch of bottlers, and there's nothing that I would want us to carry forward to future generations.

[QuartzGooner]

The whole "tradition image" to me is that we treated fans and players well, relatively better than many other clubs.
But it was never that we treated them well 100% of the time.

As G88ner says, traditions at the club have not all been with the club since 1886, and in my opinion a big part of our outlook is change through progress.

We did not play in red and white in 1886.
Nor did we regularly play in blue and yellow until well into the 20th century.

A good thing about the club is that it has been regularly and heavily involved in charitable and community events and schemes for many decades.

But yes, it is very much more corporate now than in 2006.

One tradition that I only found out about this weekend was that if one is a guest in the directors box, one is not permitted to stand up and shout when we score.
It has happened on occasion, and is frowned upon.
We are one of only a few clubs to keep this tradition, which apparently was widespread throughout football in earlier decades.
I think I never knew because when we score I am too busy standing up and shouting and clapping to look at the directors box.

[Deise Gooner]

The whole "tradition image" to me is that we treated fans and players well, relatively better than many other clubs.
But it was never that we treated them well 100% of the time.

As G88ner says, traditions at the club have not all been with the club since 1886, and in my opinion a big part of our outlook is change through progress.

We did not play in red and white in 1886.
Nor did we regularly play in blue and yellow until well into the 20th century.

A good thing about the club is that it has been regularly and heavily involved in charitable and community events and schemes for many decades.

But yes, it is very much more corporate now than in 2006.

One tradition that I only found out about this weekend was that if one is a guest in the directors box, one is not permitted to stand up and shout when we score.
It has happened on occasion, and is frowned upon.
We are one of only a few clubs to keep this tradition, which apparently was widespread throughout football in earlier decades.
I think I never knew because when we score I am too busy standing up and shouting and clapping to look at the directors box.

Klopp a few weeks ago flouted this tradition

[augie]

Miniscule detail to many I know, but I loved the requirement that all players turned up in club blazers on matchdays - for me it showed a "we mean business today" attitude and suggests a real team ethos to the opposition even though the reality could have been different. It really angers me when I see players get off the team bus wearing scruffy tracksuits and a massive pair of headphones over their ears - havent these c*nts had enough spare time in a week to listen to their music ? It isnt even as if the music is the biggest issue either - listening on headphones is a private individual thing but footie is a team game that requires a team spirit and unity and that will not be gained by players detatching themselves from their team-mates like that

The length of the sleeve was always a quirky kind of tradition to me - I'm not altogether sure how or why it came about but it was another thing that we did differently than the rest and that pleased me I suppose that it was maybe another way of showing a team mentality to our own players and that of the opposition. It also disgusts me that a mercenary b*stard was allowed to break that club tradition - if the manager or physio stopped that practice on medical grounds or some such bullshit then I can maybe understand, but to allow a 3rd rate (I'm being generous I know) w*nker who shows no affinity to any club, to stop that practice is unacceptable imo

I accept that throughout our history we have changed colours, crests and grounds but until the last 20 years, how many of those decisions were based on money ? The cartoon crest was all about money and as disgusting as that was, the suing of a lady running a hat shop in spain absolutely defies belief and embarrasses me tbh Change I can (reluctantly) accept but change for greed I cannot

[Herd]

Vic's frustrations probably stems from the fact a lucrative sideline in selling on used player clothing has been thwarted.
As Manager of the ladies team for years ,Arsenal second hand under garments could have been resold into the highly lucrative Japanese market where thrush stained sports knickers can fetch up to 1,000 pounds a pair.
It is an Arsenal tradition (since 2006) to squeeze every possible centime from punters for any old Junk ,whilst churning out shit week after week .

[arseofacrow]

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do they still matter to people ?

I always loved the fact that the club always seem to do the right thing, ie club jackets for games during grahams era all wearing the same length sleeve that the captain picks etc etc .

Good job it was one of our club legends in Flamini that broke the tradition

Should've gone the whole hog and worn a spurs shirt

[Bendtners Drinking Buddy]

Flamini can play in a bra if he wants as long as he plays well, no interest in this story - must be an international break

The short sleeves Captain thing went a long time ago - Gallas used to wear whatever the feck he wanted!

[Rugby Gooner]

The "going out of three competitions in a week tradition." Does that one count?!!!

[TheCook]

Nostaslgia ain't what it used to be

[augie]

Flamini can play in a bra if he wants as long as he plays well, no interest in this story - must be an international break

The short sleeves Captain thing went a long time ago - Gallas used to wear whatever the feck he wanted!

Another selfish prima donna p*ick

[SteveO 35]

Flamini can play in a bra if he wants as long as he plays well, no interest in this story - must be an international break

The short sleeves Captain thing went a long time ago - Gallas used to wear whatever the feck he wanted!

We'll let you put the bra on his statue when its built at the end of the season

[DB10GOONER]

Can LBD and g88nerstitchbitch please fuck off and support the chav$...



Have to admit I’m saddened and sickened by the way our traditions have been cast aside. The blazers on match day, the team wearing the same sleeve length as the captain, yellow and blue away kit, red and white home kit, the proper crest with Latin motto... Not sure which of you chav fans ( ) mentioned the 80’s but it’s not just that. I think the 80’s is probably just coincidentally the time when our traditions were at their best and most popular.

Traditions do change, and grow and develop – I can accept that. But that is different to just casting them aside which is what we have done mostly.

The crest developed over many decades but what the board did in 2002 was to totally redesign it PURELY to maximise profits (they even admitted this). This is not the same as the way we went from the old single cannon to the cannon with 3 cannonballs to the shield and cannon with Latin. That was development.

I hate to see players strut in with their scuzzy trackies and headphones on. They look like a shower of arseholes off a housing estate. The blazer was class. It made a statement. Agree with augie about team spirit too. The bus trip to the stadium should be about players getting each other motivated, not sitting locked into their own little world on their iPod.

We went from being “The Arsenal” to being just another team when we threw away our traditions. I don’t give a shit if a few people want to act all pragmatic about this and say “who cares?”. Great, you don’t care. Fuck you. Some of the rest of us do care though and it pisses us off.

[DB10GOONER]

Flamini can play in a bra if he wants as long as he plays well, no interest in this story - must be an international break

The short sleeves Captain thing went a long time ago - Gallas used to wear whatever the feck he wanted!

Another selfish prima donna p*ick

Gallas was all about one thing; Gallas. The worst piss poor excuse for a captain I've ever seen. The day he sat on the pitch and whinged like a fucking bitch against Brum was the day I wished he fuck off forever. Leader of men? My fucking hairy arsehole.

Crunt.