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[topgoon]

I know there's probably a bit of confusion but the Arsene bashing thread is here viewtopic.php?f=1&t=34817 and anyone that calls me an AKB can kiss my seriously well sculpted derriere.

Praise the team, slag the team, have a go at the ref or whatever but leave the Arsene sh*t to another f**king thread, the sh*ts getting f**king old, EVERY F**KING THREAD HI-F**KING-JACKED

Right then boys, no more mention of the manager on this match thread and that extends to team selection, tactics, substitutions and players he did/didn't sign.

We both know that's not what I meant,

[clockender1]

Lads this game is frustrating as hell and we all know why but lets keep the abuse of eachother down

Hey I didn't abuse anyone - i just correctly pointed out that he was 100% wrong based on facts.

I don't need to make up facts to back up my opinions like some people nor abuse them when I'm flat out wrong.

Think you'll find that you did start abuse at me for my opinion but hey ho bet your a real "rough, tough and scary fucker"ay

No I said you were talking bollocks which is true not abuse; but hey don't let facts get in the way of your opinion Mr. "Have you ever worked a day in football" ha ha. Wenger cloned himselfLMFAO.

[augie]

Due to other commitments I didn't see the first half so can only really comment on what I have seen, but I have to say that I thought that we battled hard. Most of us believed that we would be beaten when it was 11 v 11 so surely when we lost Chesney we couldn't expect anything out of the game ?

That said, I do agree that wenker's refusal to sub ozil was a criminal decision - maybe ozil was tired and maybe he wasn't but we do know that he sure as hell wasn't working enough for a team that was a man down. If I'm honest I will have to acknowledge that I did think that ox's legs were gone at that stage but he was still working harder than ozil.

Having read the last few pages I cannot believe that flamoney hasn't got panned on here He was absolutely at fault for BOTH goals - for the first one he went out to kroos initially but then when kroos passed the ball, flamoney left him and ran in to mark a guy that was already marked and kroos took full advantage. The second goal was woeful on his behalf - yet again he left the guy he was meant to be marking so that he could point and tell others what to do and then his man strolled in for an easy goal. Trying to organise others is all well and good but if he is not doing his own job (and he wasn't) then the whole structure collapses

Can I say again that if we don't get shot of le cock and fast, podolski will be out of here on july 1st - the way he is being treated is an absolute disgrace

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

Lads this game is frustrating as hell and we all know why but lets keep the abuse of eachother down

Hey I didn't abuse anyone - i just correctly pointed out that he was 100% wrong based on facts.

I don't need to make up facts to back up my opinions like some people nor abuse them when I'm flat out wrong.

Think you'll find that you did start abuse at me for my opinion but hey ho bet your a real "rough, tough and scary fucker"ay

No I said you were talking bollocks which is true not abuse; but hey don't let facts get in the way of your opinion Mr. "Have you ever worked a day in football" ha ha. Wenger cloned himselfLMFAO.

Keep goin fella, you are high entertainment to me, I love these exchanges but let me remind you I ain't into guys so before you get all obsessed and pm'n me with your undying love I gotta put you straight, I'm not diggin you dog

[clockender1]

I think they showed some vulnerability tonight when we ran at them with pace, both CB's looked uncomfortable when Ox or sanogo were in at them, and when jack or Ozil got a forward pass in quick.

Had we started rosicky flamini jack Ox in the middle then that would have been a different game, and with the penalty we could of won that game or drawn 1-1 with 11 men.

I feel like I did after Paris and Copenhagen II , we weren't the better team but we could have won.

& I think flappy earned his place for upcoming games IMHO.

[northbank123]

I know there's probably a bit of confusion but the Arsene bashing thread is here viewtopic.php?f=1&t=34817 and anyone that calls me an AKB can kiss my seriously well sculpted derriere.

Praise the team, slag the team, have a go at the ref or whatever but leave the Arsene sh*t to another f**king thread, the sh*ts getting f**king old, EVERY F**KING THREAD HI-F**KING-JACKED

Right then boys, no more mention of the manager on this match thread and that extends to team selection, tactics, substitutions and players he did/didn't sign.

We both know that's not what I meant,

I completely understand where you are coming from in that most threads (regardless of content) give way pretty quickly to anti-Wenger diatribes.

But although I haven't been trawling through every post I haven't really seen that sort of blind hate-filled nonsense much here. People have talked plenty about the team and there has been a consensus that pretty much everyone did well bar Ozil's seeming indifference, Szczesny's impulsive decision and Monreal's lack of ability. It hardly seems unreasonable to point out our lack of tactical reaction to the red card (despite having 10 mins + half-time break to formula some sort of plan), leaving Ozil on for the entire game when he was of no use (again), team selection, painful lack of personnel in certain areas and post-match comments (conveniently ignoring Szczesny's top-drawer save in the first 3 minutes to claim we should have been 3-0 up before they got a foothold).

Wenger is going to get criticised for those things and I can't say I don't think he deserves it.

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

I think they showed some vulnerability tonight when we ran at them with pace, both CB's looked uncomfortable when Ox or sanogo were in at them, and when jack or Ozil got a forward pass in quick.

Had we started rosicky flamini jack Ox in the middle then that would have been a different game, and with the penalty we could of won that game or drawn 1-1 with 11 men.

I feel like I did after Paris and Copenhagen II , we weren't the better team but we could have won.

& I think flappy earned his place for upcoming games IMHO.

Football genius right here, if we had scored the penalty we could have drawn, won or still lost

[clockender1]

Lads this game is frustrating as hell and we all know why but lets keep the abuse of eachother down

Hey I didn't abuse anyone - i just correctly pointed out that he was 100% wrong based on facts.

I don't need to make up facts to back up my opinions like some people nor abuse them when I'm flat out wrong.

Think you'll find that you did start abuse at me for my opinion but hey ho bet your a real "rough, tough and scary fucker"ay

No I said you were talking bollocks which is true not abuse; but hey don't let facts get in the way of your opinion Mr. "Have you ever worked a day in football" ha ha. Wenger cloned himselfLMFAO.

Keep goin fella, you are high entertainment to me, I love these exchanges but let me remind you I ain't into guys so before you get all obsessed and pm'n me with your undying love I gotta put you straight, I'm not diggin you dog

Whatever.

[George71]

Wenger should fuck off and take Ozil with him.

This manager is out dated with out dated tactics, Man ure, chelski, & munich who we should of beaten.

WHY play sanogo in a big game? Why take the ox off? loads of whys, we could pick the team better than Arsene.

Giroud must feel like he's been kicked in the bollocks, let down for all his hard work on the pitch as well as in bed with other women?

We must vent our anger at Wenger & the board for letting him have so much freedom.

Sack wenger & bring in Martinez, and have a fresh approach, move the old fossil up stairs out the way.

What we need is a Wenger out campaign

[g88ner]

I still can't quite believe Ozil lasted 90 minutes

I get he's no auxiliary left back, but bloody hell that was a lame, half arsed, disinterested excuse of a performance. no interest in tracking runners or helping Monreal even though we were getting raped down that side time and time again.

Throw in an inability to do anything with the ball and the most pathetic penalty I've seen since the last one he took ( ) and you have a performance that stunk the place out.

Which then begs the question... why was he kept on? and why was he the penalty taker?

Is he really the 3rd best penalty taker at the club? and the best penalty taker of the 11 players on the pitch? how is that possible? ... I was shouting at the tv in annoyance even before his ambling pengiun shuffle towards the penalty spot was finished and was not surprised in the slightest when his tame, weak effort failed to trouble the keeper.

Twice he's pulled that shite when taking a penalty and both times Wenger has admitted he's not a fan of that style... so why the fuck single him out as penalty taker why would you put all that trust and responsibility on the shoulders of such a flaky character?

And why trust such a player to play auxiliary left back?

He's a luxury player with no place in a 10 man rearguard action. I don't doubt he'll be quality once he settles in and playing with confidence but fuck me that time is not now and we shouldn't be pissing away a CL game for fear of subbing a £42m flake.

And seriously... if ever you needed evidence that Wenger simply cannot read a game it was tonight. Totally oblivious to the problems down our left; making no effort to stop the assault and move Ozil out of a position he clearly wasn't comfortable playing.

Ridiculous.

That said, played well until the sending off. Really took the game to Bayern, and it was sad that such a stupid rule that punishes a team twice for one offence is allowed, too often, to ruin a contest.

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

Lads this game is frustrating as hell and we all know why but lets keep the abuse of eachother down

Hey I didn't abuse anyone - i just correctly pointed out that he was 100% wrong based on facts.

I don't need to make up facts to back up my opinions like some people nor abuse them when I'm flat out wrong.

Think you'll find that you did start abuse at me for my opinion but hey ho bet your a real "rough, tough and scary fucker"ay [/quote]

No I said you were talking bollocks which is true not abuse; but hey don't let facts get in the way of your opinion Mr. "Have you ever worked a day in football" ha ha. Wenger cloned himselfLMFAO.[/quote]


Keep goin fella, you are high entertainment to me, I love these exchanges but let me remind you I ain't into guys so before you get all obsessed and pm'n me with your undying love I gotta put you straight, I'm not diggin you dog [/quote]

Whatever. [/quote]

Aw diddums, you lost already, come on I expected more from a poster like you, in fact I always thought of you a wum or some spud supporter on here but now we have locked horns please continue, it's a release after this latest loss.

[clockender1]

I think they showed some vulnerability tonight when we ran at them with pace, both CB's looked uncomfortable when Ox or sanogo were in at them, and when jack or Ozil got a forward pass in quick.

Had we started rosicky flamini jack Ox in the middle then that would have been a different game, and with the penalty we could of won that game or drawn 1-1 with 11 men.

I feel like I did after Paris and Copenhagen II , we weren't the better team but we could have won.

& I think flappy earned his place for upcoming games IMHO.

Football genius right here, if we had scored the penalty we could have drawn, won or still lost

No. It's common sense.

Look that up. Did they not teach you when you worked in football that goals change games, they change momentum, tempo, morale etc ?

No wonder you AKBs think that Guardiola, widely accepted as the best manager in the world is no good. smh.

[topgoon]

Wenger should fuck off and take Ozil with him.

This manager is out dated with out dated tactics, Man ure, chelski, & munich who we should of beaten.

WHY play sanogo in a big game? Why take the ox off? loads of whys, we could pick the team better than Arsene.

Giroud must feel like he's been kicked in the bollocks, let down for all his hard work on the pitch as well as in bed with other women?

We must vent our anger at Wenger & the board for letting him have so much freedom.

Sack wenger & bring in Martinez, and have a fresh approach, move the old fossil up stairs out the way.

What we need is a Wenger out campaign

You were saying NB123

The Sanogo trick worked initially till we were down to 10 and he was isolated. Poldi should have playe today. Giroud hasn't been puling up many trees lately so not surprised just think we should have gone with the front 3 from Sunday.

The Ox was knackered.

Would rather have Klopp than Martinez

[King Henry]

I don't share the negatives many are putting across. Wenger definitely has his limitations but I thought we done very well against what is the best team in the world. Going through was always going to be tough and overall I'd prefer we focus on the league and FA Cup. Before today I thought we had no chance of the league and I still think any hance we have is minimal but if we can approach the rest of our big games this season like the way we approached the game today then I think we could actually win some of the big games.

Also I think the criticism of Ozil is overboard. I watched him a fair bit at Madrid is his style makes him look disinterested but he does care a lot. The stats show that Ozil covered the 3rd most ground out of any player on the pitch tonight and he done his best to track back. Really though Ozil needs to be given the number 10 role and just tasked with creating chances. I strongly believe that if we played a 3 of Podolski, Ozil and Chamberlain behind the striker that Ozil will be lethal but putting players like Wilshere and Cazorla in those wide positions is always going to render Ozil ineffective if we have no pace and no players running in behind in the team. Hopefully we rebound with a few wins on the trot now, get into the FA Cup semi final and then with Ramsey hopefully back have a strong end to the season.

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

I still can't quite believe Ozil lasted 90 minutes

I get he's no auxiliary left back, but bloody hell that was a lame, half arsed, disinterested excuse of a performance. no interest in tracking runners or helping Monreal even though we were getting raped down that side time and time again.

Throw in an inability to do anything with the ball and the most pathetic penalty I've seen since the last one he took ( ) and you have a performance that stunk the place out.

Which then begs the question... why was he kept on? and why was he the penalty taker?

Is he really the 3rd best penalty taker at the club? and the best penalty taker of the 11 players on the pitch? how is that possible? ... I was shouting at the tv in annoyance even before his ambling pengiun shuffle towards the penalty spot was finished and was not surprised in the slightest when his tame, weak effort failed to trouble the keeper.

Twice he's pulled that shite when taking a penalty and both times Wenger has admitted he's not a fan of that style... so why the fuck single him out as penalty taker why would you put all that trust and responsibility on the shoulders of such a flaky character?

And why trust such a player to play auxiliary left back?

He's a luxury player with no place in a 10 man rearguard action. I don't doubt he'll be quality once he settles in and playing with confidence but fuck me that time is not now and we shouldn't be pissing away a CL game for fear of subbing a £42m flake.

And seriously... if ever you needed evidence that Wenger simply cannot read a game it was tonight. Totally oblivious to the problems down our left; making no effort to stop the assault and move Ozil out of a position he clearly wasn't comfortable playing.

Ridiculous.

That said, played well until the sending off. Really took the game to Bayern, and it was sad that such a stupid rule that punishes a team twice for one offence is allowed, too often, to ruin a contest.

Ozil has missed his last 3 penalties and it shows what a bottle job he is, Cazorla should have taken it but tbf if we had bought a decent striker before the season started or in January then there would have been a ready made made penalty taker on the pitch.

As with all top football penalty takers are arranged before a game starts so ozil would have been told he was the penalty taker before the game started so Wenger has to take some blame too as he seems to be indulging in the player by not subbing him when he is poor and letting him take free kicks and penalties when it is clear he is poor at them.