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[Dan_85]

Same old story in the CL. We exist in this state of flux where we're just good enough to scrape in to the CL each May (thank fuck for Koscielny at Newcastle eh? ), secure the £40m but never bother to use it to give us a fighting chance to win anything. Screw up the group, get dicked in the L16. Rinse & repeat.

At least a season or two in the EL would give us some interesting trips.

[LDB]

In fairness we have had some shit luck with draws in recent years. 4 of the last 5 years we've drawn the best team in the competition in the last 16, even allowing for the fact we didn't win our group that is still pretty unlucky. Only Milan was an absolute travesty, losing 4-0 to that pile of shite rates as one of our worst ever results. A real low point and frankly the Ox's face-saving heroics in the second leg were nothing of the sort for me, should have stuffed them out of sight.

[falkirk goon]

Same old story in the CL. We exist in this state of flux where we're just good enough to scrape in to the CL each May (thank fuck for Koscielny at Newcastle eh? ), secure the £40m but never bother to use it to give us a fighting chance to win anything. Screw up the group, get dicked in the L16. Rinse & repeat.

At least a season or two in the EL would give us some interesting trips.

Spot on mate, in our current state the CL is a load of old shite.Every year were seeded 1 in our group but cos we never manage to win the group we get a harder draw in the last 16 which in turn means we get reamed.I honestly think it would've been better for us(fans) if Napoli had ran up the park and scored again cos the europa looks far more interesting and winnble to me.

[Clash]

How sad is it that so many people are thinking Yaya is doing pretty well........yes he's been 'ok', but that's a real indictment of the crap we've been used to with Giroud for much of the season. Yaya hasn't really threatened the goal at all in two games!! We are so desperate to see someone up front who is a genuine threat and a bit exciting, a perma crock ligue 2 player is actually looking an ok option!!
Fact is, there isn't another manager in the CL who would have dropped their 'no.1' striker for last nights game and put in a young, inexperienced, just back from injury league 2 player, not one. Wonga had to massage his ego and prove a point, regardless of the cost, only he knows best. Why didn't Poldi, or even Barry Bender get a game? They are much more experienced!!
The management of Arsenal stinks, really stinks, because it's all about one man, all about the ego, all about proving a point. We really are watching Arsene FC these days.

Cant really argue with any of that.

In Wenger's reign we've gone from watching Wright, Bergkamp, Anelka, Henry or RvP ... to Giroud, Bendtner or Sanogo

Its disgraceful how Wenger has gradually lowered the standards and the expectations, while at the same time the ticket prices, the clubs bank balance and his own salary have gone in the opposite direction.

[Sam59]

How sad is it that so many people are thinking Yaya is doing pretty well........yes he's been 'ok', but that's a real indictment of the crap we've been used to with Giroud for much of the season. Yaya hasn't really threatened the goal at all in two games!! We are so desperate to see someone up front who is a genuine threat and a bit exciting, a perma crock ligue 2 player is actually looking an ok option!!
Fact is, there isn't another manager in the CL who would have dropped their 'no.1' striker for last nights game and put in a young, inexperienced, just back from injury league 2 player, not one. Wonga had to massage his ego and prove a point, regardless of the cost, only he knows best. Why didn't Poldi, or even Barry Bender get a game? They are much more experienced!!
The management of Arsenal stinks, really stinks, because it's all about one man, all about the ego, all about proving a point. We really are watching Arsene FC these days.

Cant really argue with any of that.

In Wenger's reign we've gone from watching Wright, Bergkamp, Anelka, Henry or RvP ... to Giroud, Bendtner or Sanogo


Its disgraceful how Wenger has gradually lowered the standards and the expectations, while at the same time the ticket prices, the clubs bank balance and his own salary have gone in the opposite direction.

You forgot Chamakh. As we speak, Wenger is having his scouts scour the world's leagues for another big git, techically terrible front man who scores 1 in every 25 chances, if that.
Saw a stat that the Tightwadded One has now earned upwards of £65 mill from his time at Arsenal. With of course another £24 mill to come. Such are the rewards for making moolah for the Board.

[Clash]

Same old story in the CL. We exist in this state of flux where we're just good enough to scrape in to the CL each May (thank fuck for Koscielny at Newcastle eh? ), secure the £40m but never bother to use it to give us a fighting chance to win anything. Screw up the group, get dicked in the L16. Rinse & repeat.

At least a season or two in the EL would give us some interesting trips.

Totally agree with you mate.

For a while now I've thought that a season or two of not qualifying for the CL would give the club a much needed kick up the arse and snap them out of their smug, self-satisfied comfort zone. I'm sure if Villa had held onto 4th in 2009 Wenger would have done a lot more that summer than just bringing in Vermaelen ( who cost just a quarter of the £40m we got for selling Toure and Adebayor ).

[augie]

In fairness we have had some shit luck with draws in recent years. 4 of the last 5 years we've drawn the best team in the competition in the last 16, even allowing for the fact we didn't win our group that is still pretty unlucky. Only Milan was an absolute travesty, losing 4-0 to that pile of shite rates as one of our worst ever results. A real low point and frankly the Ox's face-saving heroics in the second leg were nothing of the sort for me, should have stuffed them out of sight.

I agree with you over the dubious call on whether robben would have reached the ball in time to call it a clear goalscoring chance but I'm not having that statement - we ballsed up first place in our group and did so too many times in recent years and in most of those cases we lost top spot cos wenker fcuked about playing back up players before top spot was secured

[augie]

Probably a bit of both DB cos you are def a fcukwad

I know that redaction can claim to have originally been set up to improve atmosphere but can it be said that it is still their sole target ? Have they enjoyed being perceived as the voice of the fans since though both in terms of meetings with the club and also when the media (sky) look for someone to interview ? If they are happy to enjoy the perks then surely they have to be willing to take on the responsibilities that come with it ?

Cor, you can make up any old shit you like to discredit REDaction can't you?

Nobody from REDaction has ever been interviewed on Sky - I look forward to your apology.

If I'm wrong then I apologise

[TheCook]

Probably a bit of both DB cos you are def a fcukwad

I know that redaction can claim to have originally been set up to improve atmosphere but can it be said that it is still their sole target ? Have they enjoyed being perceived as the voice of the fans since though both in terms of meetings with the club and also when the media (sky) look for someone to interview ? If they are happy to enjoy the perks then surely they have to be willing to take on the responsibilities that come with it ?

Cor, you can make up any old shit you like to discredit REDaction can't you?

Nobody from REDaction has ever been interviewed on Sky - I look forward to your apology.

If I'm wrong then I apologise

I have 600+ posts on this forum, and if I could be bothered to go back and check, most of these are probably in reponse to you spouting some inaccurate shit about REDaction - Just let it go mate - I don't like you either, but as I know nothing about you I have no further comment to make - which is better than just coming up with some statement which is incorrect.

[topgoon]

Probably a bit of both DB cos you are def a fcukwad

I know that redaction can claim to have originally been set up to improve atmosphere but can it be said that it is still their sole target ? Have they enjoyed being perceived as the voice of the fans since though both in terms of meetings with the club and also when the media (sky) look for someone to interview ? If they are happy to enjoy the perks then surely they have to be willing to take on the responsibilities that come with it ?

Cor, you can make up any old shit you like to discredit REDaction can't you?

Nobody from REDaction has ever been interviewed on Sky - I look forward to your apology.

If I'm wrong then I apologise

I have 600+ posts on this forum, and if I could be bothered to go back and check, most of these are probably in reponse to you spouting some inaccurate shit about REDaction - Just let it go mate - I don't like you either, but as I know nothing about you I have no further comment to make - which is better than just coming up with some statement which is incorrect.

He apologized, might be gracious to accept it

[TheCook]

Probably a bit of both DB cos you are def a fcukwad

I know that redaction can claim to have originally been set up to improve atmosphere but can it be said that it is still their sole target ? Have they enjoyed being perceived as the voice of the fans since though both in terms of meetings with the club and also when the media (sky) look for someone to interview ? If they are happy to enjoy the perks then surely they have to be willing to take on the responsibilities that come with it ?

Cor, you can make up any old shit you like to discredit REDaction can't you?

Nobody from REDaction has ever been interviewed on Sky - I look forward to your apology.

If I'm wrong then I apologise

I have 600+ posts on this forum, and if I could be bothered to go back and check, most of these are probably in reponse to you spouting some inaccurate shit about REDaction - Just let it go mate - I don't like you either, but as I know nothing about you I have no further comment to make - which is better than just coming up with some statement which is incorrect.

He apologized, might be gracious to accept it

What is the maximum amount of times you have to correct someone before you stop being polite and gracious when they admit their error? The bloke is a Mod but his agenda and inaccuracies are bullshit - But he's in the clique so it's OK.

[TheCook]

Look at the history of this forum - to name but two, Tim Stillman and Andrew Mangan have both had to register as users and post messages in response to some of the bullshit and accusatory posts about them - exactly the reason I had to sign up years ago. How many others have had to do that? This place is poison - the only reason I have to keep coming back is to correct bullshit posts like Augie's. Will it stop him? Doubt it.

[DB10GOONER]

TheCook - augie is not a Mod. We have SOME standards and we draw the line at angry bald bastards!

And he ain't in the Clique. Which doesn't exist.

[DB10GOONER]

Look at the history of this forum - to name but two, Tim Stillman and Andrew Mangan have both had to register as users and post messages in response to some of the bullshit and accusatory posts about them - exactly the reason I had to sign up years ago. How many others have had to do that? This place is poison - the only reason I have to keep coming back is to correct bullshit posts like Augie's. Will it stop him? Doubt it.

"Poison"? Seriously? Sliiiiiiiiiight over exageration there...

[augie]

Cook I have no issue with you whatsoever but if you want to take it personally then there is fcuk all I can do about that

The way I am programmed is that if a player/manager or whoever, gives my club outstanding service over a period of time then I would be willing to forgive almost anything, but if any person or group do what I perceive to be bad for the club, then it would take a long, long, long time for me to allow them back into my good books - I'm not trying to make excuses for my statements because I absolutely stand by my thought process on this.
The simple truth is that I cannot get the image of the cringeworthy march opposing usmanov out of my head (thanks steve o ) - as I have said millions of times already, my gripe was that the club used redaction for that purpose and ye were happy to go along with it and from that day on I stopped viewing redaction as an independent fans group but just another aspect of the club itself. On the very odd occasion I have heard comments suggesting that there is regret within redaction for that decision but I have never seen it publicly addressed and indeed I have never seen or heard the group do or say anything that will affect their cosy relationship with the club.
My frustration in that regard isn't solely reserved for redaction and I actually stopped my membership of the BSM because of their refusal to tackle "the elephant in the room" huge issue.......the problems with wenker. No group seems willing to stand up and criticise his performance (expect the ast statement suggesting that no contract extension should be agreed until end of season) - I have read all the comments about how the groups are afraid of how such criticism would drive people out of their groups but where is the greater good there ? What use is it if you have ten thousand nodding sheep members but are supporting a club and regime that aims no higher than 4th and are willing to allow an employee to service his own ego before anything else ?

Respect has to be earned imo - when an organisation takes action that warrants respect then I will join up but in the meantime I will sit here alone with my own principles as company