The Summer 2014 TRANSFER THREAD

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Re: SUMMER 2014 TRANSFER THREAD

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MrT wrote:
Robin_L wrote:Bacary Sagna "has been shocking for 2 seasons now. Always looks nervous and uncomfortable on the ball"

ahahahaha this place is a hoot :lol: Whoever the mods pay to write this stuff, double their wages please, they're earning it 8)
Why don't you quote me and counter any points I've made? You never seem to make any valid points on here. Just seem to float around making snide smug comments.
My good man, your comment was so absurd it didn't warrant a response beyond ridicule. You've out-Durham'd Durham there.

One of the best right backs this league has seen in two decades, solid as a rock defensively and underrated as an offensive option with his crossing, that is unless you choose to ignore what your eyes are telling you by watching some of his crosses during matches. Not being able to beat a man as a full back doesn't equate to not being able to cross a ball with a decent delivery, which he often does. If we had more of an attacking presence in the box to get on the end of some of them it would be more noticeable, and the "Sagna can't cross" bollocks would cease.

But no, you're right mate. He's "shocking"

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Rumour: Florentina after Verm and Arteta. Wouldn't mind seeing the latter go tbh. He looked uncomfortable as DMC last Sunday & he is clogging space.

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1989 wrote:
VAVAVOOM 14 wrote:
markyp wrote:the new and improved vela = no brainer
I wouldn't be adverse to signing him but it would come with a caveat: he can't be the only striker we sign, we need someone superior to be first choice.
Vela and Sanchez - that would be immense. We'd score hatfuls and be exciting to watch again.
Against everybody but the best.

I know he has gotten better and we could do with thrashing more also rans but if we still lose to the big boys away from home because our striker is a flat track bully, then we have not moved forward at all.

We can afford to buy a striker that is above the good level. We either buy an up and coming one like a Griezmann who's rawness might startle other clubs.....and no I don't mean the Postman type rawness.

Or we say f**k it pay 60-70million for the top level. We can afford the Zlat's wages so why not.

Falcao maybe realizes playing in front of 5000 people at home that spend most of their time wondering what time they can moor their super yacht in the Harbour is not that fun.

Cavani, why not.

Even Costa, might not yet be a done deal, why not just slap 50million in front of them at worst they say no but they make the chavs pay more and possibly start a bidding war, at best Maureen and the Russian get f**ked off that because of us they are being messed about and pull out. We end up with an old fashioned English striker, that can bully, lead the line, hold the ball up and score a decent number of goals.

Costa will be a Suarez in his first season as in, decent number of goals but keeps being done by refs because let's face it he is a dirty little f**ker that makes Shearer look like an altar boy. But then he will learn to box clever and I think will seriously thrive in our league with naïve defenders who are no longer used to that type of striker. Even chavvy Terry who's a bit old school was flummoxed by Costa.

I wouldn't touch any from the dutch league as there tend to me more Afonso Aves from there than Bony's.

We should make a statement and buy a proper striker but I think Vela will be the height of our ambitions.

120 million in the bank

50million on a top level striker
3million on Vela
10million on Calum Chambers/Serge Aurier aka baby Sagna
5million on David Marshall from Cardiff
15million on Schneiderlin
Lescott/Richards as back up on a free.
As a punt,be tempted to get Patrick Roberts from Fulham and Obita from Reading and loan them back to their clubs for experience
If we can't properly challenge with that then we need a new manager. :rubchin:

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spendsum4uckingmoney wrote:Rumour: Florentina after Verm and Arteta. Wouldn't mind seeing the latter go tbh. He looked uncomfortable as DMC last Sunday & he is clogging space.
Interesting. I was looking at their squad and there's no one I'd really have in a swap. But I'd gladly take £15mil for the pair.

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Richards still got a year left on his contract so not available on a free

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MrT wrote:
northbank123 wrote:Mr T I've said that he's not much cop going forward - although this is not his primary responsibility and I think far fewer full-backs are actually real attacking threats than people would have you believe.

But "offers nothing defensively on the right" is complete and utter cack. That's the sort of thing you'd say about someone that gets torn to pieces every week.
Do you seriously pay attention to the glaring deficiencies on this team? I mean really take the time for critical analysis. Pay extra close attention to how he plays and all will be revealed. If you're happy to have a RB that can't do the most basic of things then I can't help you there.

The next time you see a pacey winger against Sagna I will guarantee that the vast majority of the time he will get skinned. He's slow, a liability and his best days are behind him, time to get rid. Does it really matter anyway? He wants a bigger pay day to sit on the City bench so he can go get fucked. He obviously thinks he's better than he actually is.
I don't think you'll find any other poster here who feels that I hold back in my criticisms of the team.

But you've described Sagna as offering nothing defensively and unable to do the simplest of tasks. If you're gonna offer such extreme views expect people to disagree. I at no stage have suggested he is faultless or anything along those lines but your blunt assessment is a ridiculous exaggeration imo.

And saying he struggles against pacey wingers is not groundbreaking - teams that have width and move the ball at pace are generally a lot more difficult to defend against and that statement probably rings true for nearly all full-backs. For what it's worth Sagna generally put in very good performances against Bale and he only really hurt us when he drifted inside.

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Robin_L wrote:
MrT wrote:
Robin_L wrote:Bacary Sagna "has been shocking for 2 seasons now. Always looks nervous and uncomfortable on the ball"

ahahahaha this place is a hoot :lol: Whoever the mods pay to write this stuff, double their wages please, they're earning it 8)
Why don't you quote me and counter any points I've made? You never seem to make any valid points on here. Just seem to float around making snide smug comments.
My good man, your comment was so absurd it didn't warrant a response beyond ridicule. You've out-Durham'd Durham there.

One of the best right backs this league has seen in two decades, solid as a rock defensively and underrated as an offensive option with his crossing, that is unless you choose to ignore what your eyes are telling you by watching some of his crosses during matches. Not being able to beat a man as a full back doesn't equate to not being able to cross a ball with a decent delivery, which he often does. If we had more of an attacking presence in the box to get on the end of some of them it would be more noticeable, and the "Sagna can't cross" bollocks would cease.

But no, you're right mate. He's "shocking"
Whilst MrT's claims that Sagna can't defend are ludicrous, similarly your claims that he can cross (and that he "often does") are just as ludicrous. He is an appalling crosser of the ball 9 times out of 10. I don't know what you are watching, but it ain't Sagna. He either hits the leg of the first defender or it goes out for a throw in on the far side. I rate Sagna defensively but he is terrible as an attacking option.

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Cheers Wibble, thought his contract had run down. Still if he can sort his injury problems out we get two positions in one player.

DB10, if anyone wonders why most people think most stats are BS,this most be it.....statistically Sagna has been the better attacking RB between him and Zabaletta. I can only imagine its because Zabaletta tends to play the ball on the floor into the box and frequently ghosts past the FB to make up an extra man in the penalty area,just like his goal against the Baggies at the Shittyhad.

Oddly though the stats put Sagna as a more accurate crosser of the ball.... :shock: no wonder they want him on a free.

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sagna is average at best,like already mentioned going forward he is gash,not a patch on what Lauren was,his crosses are dire,when he ever if ever gets past the full back and eventually gets a cross in it never ever finds one of our players,defensively hes decent but that's not enough in the modern game,my only concern with him leaving is that Wenker wont replace him with somebody of the same ability,you know it will be worse and we will be longing for those misplaced crosses from him again by october

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topgoon wrote:Cheers Wibble, thought his contract had run down. Still if he can sort his injury problems out we get two positions in one player.
Yeah I've always rated him-as you say, injuries are a concern and could be another player that spends more time in the treatment room than on the pitch

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Bid accepted for Aurier apparently.

Oh well, at least he's a better crosser than Sagna.

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markyp wrote:sagna is average at best,like already mentioned going forward he is gash,not a patch on what Lauren was,his crosses are dire,when he ever if ever gets past the full back and eventually gets a cross in it never ever finds one of our players,defensively hes decent but that's not enough in the modern game,my only concern with him leaving is that Wenker wont replace him with somebody of the same ability,you know it will be worse and we will be longing for those misplaced crosses from him again by october
Bac has probably been the best backs-to-the-wall full back I've seen in the Premier League for the last 5 years.

Yes, he's been caught out quite a few times when he's galloped into the final 3rd but that's not reflective of his abilities but the tactics. He never had this problem when he's had Theo in front of him providing the width whereas with Santi he's forced to stretch the pitch upfront and why we've been victim to witnessing his horrendous crossing ability :lol:

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1989 wrote:Bid accepted for Aurier apparently.

Oh well, at least he's a better crosser than Sagna.
surprised your not wanking about this one 1989. surely aurier is the new philip lahm? :barscarf: :wink: :wink:

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1989 wrote:Bid accepted for Aurier apparently.

Oh well, at least he's a better crosser than Sagna.
If Monreal was £10 million then he'll definitely be worth it.

AURIER VS JENKINSON
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Would have been interesting to see Sagna play at CB a bit more. Don't get me wrong I'm glad our CB partnership has been excellent this season and we've got (soon to be had) a strong 3rd-choice CB. I'm just intrigued to see how he would have fared there. His performance at Sunderland away last year when he filled in there was absolutely class and proper old school.

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