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I love how Celtic think they're a big club because they win the SPL but fail to mention they're the only team in it. Their self righteousness is laughable.
Don't talk nonsense. European Cup Winners with a massive support worldwide. They're a huge club.
What a load of bollocks
On what basis mc ? Hate their sectarian base and media hype and that is fair enough, but they are still a massive club with a massive worldwide fanbase and if they relocated to the English premier league, they would certainly be in the top 8 clubs no probs
fuck celtic and fuck rangers, two clubs together who built up fanbases from sectarian hatred, if it wasnt for killings in the north of ireland then either club would be as big as hibs/hearts.
They're a huge club. I don't see how it can even be debated liking them or not. Look at the worldwide support as well, it's massive. The European Cup isn't an automatic qualification to be huge, but combined with what they are, it adds to just how big they are.
if it wasnt for killings in the north of ireland then either club would be as big as hibs/hearts.
You should look into the history of the clubs before making statements like that.
I love how Celtic think they're a big club because they win the SPL but fail to mention they're the only team in it. Their self righteousness is laughable.
Don't talk nonsense. European Cup Winners with a massive support worldwide. They're a huge club.
What a load of bollocks
On what basis mc ? Hate their sectarian base and media hype and that is fair enough, but they are still a massive club with a massive worldwide fanbase and if they relocated to the English premier league, they would certainly be in the top 8 clubs no probs
Top 8?
Must make Legia Warsaw a European powerhouse.
If Celtic moved to England based on their current squad and tqctis they wouldn't get out of the Championship.
I love how Celtic think they're a big club because they win the SPL but fail to mention they're the only team in it. Their self righteousness is laughable.
Don't talk nonsense. European Cup Winners with a massive support worldwide. They're a huge club.
They certainly do have a massive following, even in the States. But alot of those "fans" will never attend even one match and are sucked in by all the "Celtic are an Oirish Catholic team" sectarian bollocks.
rigsby wrote:They're a huge club. I don't see how it can even be debated liking them or not. Look at the worldwide support as well, it's massive. The European Cup isn't an automatic qualification to be huge, but combined with what they are, it adds to just how big they are.
if it wasnt for killings in the north of ireland then either club would be as big as hibs/hearts.
You should look into the history of the clubs before making statements like that.
i know the history of both clubs, they are called the old firm for a reason as neither can do anything without the other for monetary reasons, both clubs tap into the history of ireland and have been doing so for 100 years.
northbank123 wrote:Besiktas, away first leg. I know the idea of an intimidating atmosphere will worry some people but they are cack. Just need to avoid a chaotic performance in the first leg.
Demba Ba joined them recently but in reality these games are or should be a formality.
REB wrote:fuck celtic and fuck rangers, two clubs together who built up fanbases from sectarian hatred, if it wasnt for killings in the north of ireland then either club would be as big as hibs/hearts.
And if it wasn't for a plane crash in munich, manure would be nowhere near as big a club as they now are If it comes to it, maybe we wouldn't be as a big a club if we had of remained in south London ? Fact is that, for whatever reason, celtic (and rangers) are massive clubs worldwide despite the huge decline in Scottish football - a few seasons in the English prem league earning the massive tv money that English clubs do, would see both clubs being regular challengers for all the big trophies and regardless of the drunken/sectarian fans, that is an absolute reality
I love how Celtic think they're a big club because they win the SPL but fail to mention they're the only team in it. Their self righteousness is laughable.
Don't talk nonsense. European Cup Winners with a massive support worldwide. They're a huge club.
They certainly do have a massive following, even in the States. But alot of those "fans" will never attend even one match and are sucked in by all the "Celtic are an Oirish Catholic team" sectarian bollocks.
Exactly - how do you measure worldwide fanbase? Does an American who has no actual interest in 'soccer' but has Irish ancestry and would therefore answer "Celtic" if asked which football team do you support count equally as somebody who would fly over a few times a season because they loved watching their team that much?
This worldwide fanbase didn't help them reach 80% average capacity last season.
Don't want to keep labouring the point but if your opposition on a weekly basis was st Johnston or inverness cally etc, what hope would you have of selling out your stadium week nin and week out ?
Anyway back to the besiktas tie, am I the only one worried about this ? Not as fierce as a few years ago but turkey can still be quite intimidating and backbone is not what we are famous for
augie wrote:Don't want to keep labouring the point but if your opposition on a weekly basis was st Johnston or inverness cally etc, what hope would you have of selling out your stadium week nin and week out ?
And this is what it ultimately boils down to - Celtic are a massive club.... FOR A SCOTTISH SIDE. People are - consciously or sub-consciously - making adjustments for this.
Nobody is disputing that they dwarf the SPL also-rans.
augie wrote:Don't want to keep labouring the point but if your opposition on a weekly basis was st Johnston or inverness cally etc, what hope would you have of selling out your stadium week nin and week out ?
And this is what it ultimately boils down to - Celtic are a massive club.... FOR A SCOTTISH SIDE. People are - consciously or sub-consciously - making adjustments for this.
Nobody is disputing that they OneBard the SPL also-rans.