Bad refereeing/ call for Mike fucking Riley to stand down

[Bradywasking]

All that rugby puts hairs on your chest,
What chance have you got against a tie and a crest.

The Eton rifles...The Jam....

Mentioning the words Rugby and Sport in the same sentence is contradictory , unless it is meant to be contradictory.

I agree that as bad as referees are they are not the only problem, there must be pressure brought to bear on officials from a higher authority that deems incidents like Sterling's against Swansea nonpunishable. If the referee or his assistant said they didn't see the incident was pressure put on them to say they did in order to exonerate Sterling ? Maybe a bit far fetched , but we all have seen incidents over the Premier League years that defy logic. all football fans believe their team get no fair play from authorities , being paranoid is a must for a fan. I cannot produce stats but I genuinely believe the decisions in the Premier League greatly favour the two Lancashire Reds and it is no coincidence that the media bias has weighed heavily in favour of those two clubs.

[DB10GOONER]

All that rugby puts some fat bloke's jizz on your chest.

Fixed that for ya, BWK!

[Yankee_Gooner_Dandee]

how hard would it be to give the managers each 2 "challenges" a game, where they can ask the ref to look at a replay monitor to verify or over-turn the decision or non-decision they made?

team A gets a penalty called against them, team A manager challenges and the ref takes 1-2 minutes to review the replay, decides the right call, and its done. same for red card offences, disallowed goals for offsides calls, etc. obviously there would have to be specific rules and what not but it would be a step in the right direction. no other sport is so heavily influenced by the decisions of a single referee than football.

or they can do what the NFL has switched to this year and when a manager challenges a call, it goes to a panel of officials sitting in a room watching replays. they make the correct decision and then relay it back to the ref of the game. its fast. its efficient. its not always 100% correct, but it is a massive improvement in getting the right call.

[arseofacrow]

how hard would it be to give the managers each 2 "challenges" a game, where they can ask the ref to look at a replay monitor to verify or over-turn the decision or non-decision they made?

team A gets a penalty called against them, team A manager challenges and the ref takes 1-2 minutes to review the replay, decides the right call, and its done. same for red card offences, disallowed goals for offsides calls, etc. obviously there would have to be specific rules and what not but it would be a step in the right direction. no other sport is so heavily influenced by the decisions of a single referee than football.

or they can do what the NFL has switched to this year and when a manager challenges a call, it goes to a panel of officials sitting in a room watching replays. they make the correct decision and then relay it back to the ref of the game. its fast. its efficient. its not always 100% correct, but it is a massive improvement in getting the right call.

But American football is shit.

[DB10GOONER]

how hard would it be to give the managers each 2 "challenges" a game, where they can ask the ref to look at a replay monitor to verify or over-turn the decision or non-decision they made?

team A gets a penalty called against them, team A manager challenges and the ref takes 1-2 minutes to review the replay, decides the right call, and its done. same for red card offences, disallowed goals for offsides calls, etc. obviously there would have to be specific rules and what not but it would be a step in the right direction. no other sport is so heavily influenced by the decisions of a single referee than football.

or they can do what the NFL has switched to this year and when a manager challenges a call, it goes to a panel of officials sitting in a room watching replays. they make the correct decision and then relay it back to the ref of the game. its fast. its efficient. its not always 100% correct, but it is a massive improvement in getting the right call.

But American football is shit.

Harsh. But fair. And true.

[Arsenal Till I Die]

how hard would it be to give the managers each 2 "challenges" a game, where they can ask the ref to look at a replay monitor to verify or over-turn the decision or non-decision they made?

team A gets a penalty called against them, team A manager challenges and the ref takes 1-2 minutes to review the replay, decides the right call, and its done. same for red card offences, disallowed goals for offsides calls, etc. obviously there would have to be specific rules and what not but it would be a step in the right direction. no other sport is so heavily influenced by the decisions of a single referee than football.

or they can do what the NFL has switched to this year and when a manager challenges a call, it goes to a panel of officials sitting in a room watching replays. they make the correct decision and then relay it back to the ref of the game. its fast. its efficient. its not always 100% correct, but it is a massive improvement in getting the right call.

But American football is shit.

Harsh. But fair. And true.

If we start slowing the game down, it will piss people off. I know it has been said on so many occasions but, controversy is a part of football. It gives everyone who enjoys the sport something to talk about and .

[Yankee_Gooner_Dandee]

how hard would it be to give the managers each 2 "challenges" a game, where they can ask the ref to look at a replay monitor to verify or over-turn the decision or non-decision they made?

team A gets a penalty called against them, team A manager challenges and the ref takes 1-2 minutes to review the replay, decides the right call, and its done. same for red card offences, disallowed goals for offsides calls, etc. obviously there would have to be specific rules and what not but it would be a step in the right direction. no other sport is so heavily influenced by the decisions of a single referee than football.

or they can do what the NFL has switched to this year and when a manager challenges a call, it goes to a panel of officials sitting in a room watching replays. they make the correct decision and then relay it back to the ref of the game. its fast. its efficient. its not always 100% correct, but it is a massive improvement in getting the right call.

But American football is shit.

i don't disagree. i watch football/soccer and basketball primarily...NFL is a distant 3rd. but they do have the right idea when it comes to instant replays, and I think the Prem should take some of their ideas in that regard.

[gp543]

how hard would it be to give the managers each 2 "challenges" a game, where they can ask the ref to look at a replay monitor to verify or over-turn the decision or non-decision they made?

team A gets a penalty called against them, team A manager challenges and the ref takes 1-2 minutes to review the replay, decides the right call, and its done. same for red card offences, disallowed goals for offsides calls, etc. obviously there would have to be specific rules and what not but it would be a step in the right direction. no other sport is so heavily influenced by the decisions of a single referee than football.

or they can do what the NFL has switched to this year and when a manager challenges a call, it goes to a panel of officials sitting in a room watching replays. they make the correct decision and then relay it back to the ref of the game. its fast. its efficient. its not always 100% correct, but it is a massive improvement in getting the right call.

But American football is shit.

i don't disagree. i watch football/soccer and basketball primarily...NFL is a distant 3rd. but they do have the right idea when it comes to instant replays, and I think the Prem should take some of their ideas in that regard.

Instant replay is a slippery slope that is now being expanded to every american sport. It slows the game down immensely and the majority of calls or decisions are upheld to begin with. Human error is part of life and it all eventually evens out.

One of the reasons I love football so much is that it's 45 minutes of play, short break, 45 more minutes and you're done with it (unless it's a cup tie). I would hate to see it go the way of basketball or american football. Leave replay out of the game and move on.

[Bradywasking]

How frustrating would it be if you were chasing a one goal deficit with time running out only for the opposing manger to use a "challenge" to break your momentum. ?

[Yankee_Gooner_Dandee]

How frustrating would it be if you were chasing a one goal deficit with time running out only for the opposing manger to use a "challenge" to break your momentum. ?

well ideally they wouldnt be able to use them on just anything. it would have to be a specific situation ie. penalty, red card. which would mean that they wouldnt be able to do that unless that specific situation occured.

how much MORE frustrating is it when youre chasing a one goal deficit with time running out and win a clear penalty only for the ref to not call it?

[arseofacrow]

How frustrating would it be if you were chasing a one goal deficit with time running out only for the opposing manger to use a "challenge" to break your momentum. ?

well ideally they wouldnt be able to use them on just anything. it would have to be a specific situation ie. penalty, red card. which would mean that they wouldnt be able to do that unless that specific situation occured.

how much MORE frustrating is it when youre chasing a one goal deficit with time running out and win a clear penalty only for the ref to not call it?

That's life, mate. You get some, you lose some.

How frustrating would it be if you wanted to leave your mrs and she had a challenge?

[Red Snapper]

American sports are very suited to being stop/start so they can fit in ad breaks/time outs/video replays and that suits Americans too as they seem to want breaks for food or beer. Football is a sport that doesn't suit breaks or time outs and the fact that the officials get it wrong sometimes shouls theoretically even out over a season and gives us something to bitch about. Cricket and rugby are stop start too so they can more easily adopt video replays. Let's leave football alone.

[robbo10]

American sports are very suited to being stop/start so they can fit in ad breaks/time outs/video replays and that suits Americans too as they seem to want breaks for food or beer. Football is a sport that doesn't suit breaks or time outs and the fact that the officials get it wrong sometimes shouls theoretically even out over a season and gives us something to bitch about. Cricket and rugby are stop start too so they can more easily adopt video replays. Let's leave football alone.

The thing I always loved about football (until goal-line technology) was it was the same game rule wise from amateur right up to the World Cup final.

[GoonerMuzz]

I actually think Yankee has a point, the speed these things can be done at now means in certain very specific circumstances when play has stopped it wouldn't increase the delay in the game, however only when play has stopped ie penalty decisions etc.

I do believe though that much more use should be made of an independent body to review things post match, and harsh fines imposed not only on players but on officials when they get things very wrong. Decisions nowadays can cost teams a fortune in revenue when wrong, can mean players out for extended periods which again massively effects smaller teams.

People use delay as an excuse too easily these days without considering all the other potential advantages.

It will never happen because of FIFA and UEFA are happy raking in the money with things as they are though

[StuartL]

Personally, I have no problem with technology in football (providing it works)

Offside decisions could easily be made using technology (sky do it within seconds already) and many wrong decisions would be avoided.

It is barmy that commentators, viewers have better access to see the action than the poor sod trying to referee the match.

I would love to see a referee able to review the match, prior to sending in his report, and say for example had he seen Rooney dive he would have booked him / sent him off and a retrospective ban be applied for cheating. Who knows it might even stop cheats, especially if the retrospective ban was more severe.

Refs also need desperately need to be held accountable directly after a match to give their reasons for decisions - they are costing teams points, which as we all know equates to big bucks in todays football and the wrong call can lead to relegation.

And it won't end, mate. technology for offsides - then what?

Can't we accept the guy in the middle? Why do we have to have certainty about everything and have everything uniform? Human mistakes by players and refs.

If they technology exists, use it, why not, ?

Because surely the ref's would prefer to be making the right decisions 95 % of the time as opposed to guessing as they appear to do so now. Some decisions are so blatantly wrong it's making them a laughing stock.

I would rather be talking about the good football / goals than shitty refs and awful decisions that have affected the match result.