if you need a goal

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Red Snapper wrote:
safcftm wrote:By the way, does anyone know this mentalist, a half Sunderland half arsenal strip, random as fuck http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/f ... rt-5244517
We all assumed it was you! :wink:
To be fair if they made one with bendtner on the back I'd be tempted

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Red Snapper wrote:
safcftm wrote:By the way, does anyone know this mentalist, a half Sunderland half arsenal strip, random as fuck http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/f ... rt-5244517
We all assumed it was you! :wink:
To be fair if they made one with bendtner on the back I'd be tempted

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SPUDMASHER wrote:I think he's a decent enough player. I also think it is a sad day when players of his quality are referred to as 'shit' purely because he isn't Messi or Henry standard. Fucking pathetic in my opinion. Why is it that some supporters feel a sense of entitlement?
Lets think of a few more that we could give the same label to on that basis.

Aaron Ramshit
Ibrahimashit
Ruud Van Nistleshit
Cesc Fabreshit
etc.
etc.
etc.
Yeah that's why lots of fans don't rate him. It's cos he isn't "Messi or Henry".
Take it easy bro, as Welbeck isn't even Adebayor FFS....he is piss-poor, average. That's why United let us have him and that's why when an England international that won trophies with Man United was available for sale, no proper club wanted him :roll:
Oh unless you count West Ham :lol:

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flash gunner wrote:
SPUDMASHER wrote:I think he's a decent enough player. I also think it is a sad day when players of his quality are referred to as 'shit' purely because he isn't Messi or Henry standard. Fucking pathetic in my opinion. Why is it that some supporters feel a sense of entitlement?
Lets think of a few more that we could give the same label to on that basis.

Aaron Ramshit
Ibrahimashit
Ruud Van Nistleshit
Cesc Fabreshit
etc.
etc.
etc.
Agreed spuddy

I like Welbeck he isn't 'super quality' but he gives his all
Couldn't agree more. There's not a lot of comments on here that wind me up but Augie's constant reference does my fucking nut in. As always we're all entitled to our own opinion but in the case of Welbeck I just think it's out of order.
In a team of 11 not all can be World Class.
I hope he has a long and successful career with us.
And relax..........

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safcftm wrote:Always take welbeck with you,
If you need a goal, pass the ball to Welbeck

Edit, I'm pissed, ignore, love welbz though
This is quality, can we steal it?

It's a bit small time, but 95% of our songs are shit, so needs must.

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Eboue-Why? wrote:
flash gunner wrote:
SPUDMASHER wrote:I think he's a decent enough player. I also think it is a sad day when players of his quality are referred to as 'shit' purely because he isn't Messi or Henry standard. Fucking pathetic in my opinion. Why is it that some supporters feel a sense of entitlement?
Lets think of a few more that we could give the same label to on that basis.

Aaron Ramshit
Ibrahimashit
Ruud Van Nistleshit
Cesc Fabreshit
etc.
etc.
etc.
Agreed spuddy

I like Welbeck he isn't 'super quality' but he gives his all
Couldn't agree more. There's not a lot of comments on here that wind me up but Augie's constant reference does my fucking nut in. As always we're all entitled to our own opinion but in the case of Welbeck I just think it's out of order.
In a team of 11 not all can be World Class.
I hope he has a long and successful career with us.
And relax..........

You are very welcome 8) :lol:

Ironically enough I had by and large stopped calling him wellshit for the last few months purely out of respect for the work he has put in, but of late I suppose his lack of ability has pissed me off a bit more (maybe because sanchez is off form and our other strikers need to step up). Considering some of the stuff thrown at some of our players on here, I am surprised that forum members would get their panties in a twist over this but if it helps pacify the masses then I will be on my best behaviour from now on :wink: :lol: :barscarf:

PS - can I also say eboue-why, that I agree that in a team of 11 not everyone will be world class, but I will also add that wellbeck is not good enough to be in a first 11 of a club of our stature

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The problem here is that it isn't his fault that you, or anyone else, doesn't consider him good enough.

United didn't sell him because he wasn't good enough. They sold him because they wanted Falcao and had to let somebody else go in order to get him. The choice was between Rooney, Van Persie and Wellbeck. They considered him to be the lesser of the three and he was sacrificed. Van rubberfacedcunt had to say he wasn't good enough or what was his justification for letting him go?

I'm not good enough to play for Arsenal. I never was, even in my youth. If I was selected by the club though, and gave my all in every game, I'd be disappointed to be called spuddyshit. I wouldn't deserve it!

There's no point in berating a player that gives his all despite maybe not being good enough. I think it is better focused at a useless tosser that has the ability but doesn't try.

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SPUDMASHER wrote:The problem here is that it isn't his fault that you, or anyone else, doesn't consider him good enough.

United didn't sell him because he wasn't good enough. They sold him because they wanted Falcao and had to let somebody else go in order to get him. The choice was between Rooney, Van Persie and Wellbeck. They considered him to be the lesser of the three and he was sacrificed. Van rubberfacedcunt had to say he wasn't good enough or what was his justification for letting him go?

I'm not good enough to play for Arsenal. I never was, even in my youth. If I was selected by the club though, and gave my all in every game, I'd be disappointed to be called spuddyshit. I wouldn't deserve it!

There's no point in berating a player that gives his all despite maybe not being good enough. I think it is better focused at a useless tosser that has the ability but doesn't try.


Why does your debut goalkeeping performance v the mackems spring to mind ? :wink: :lol: :lol: :barscarf:

Seriously though spuddy, do you not see a flaw in your argument re manure's reason for selling him ? I mean if they thought that he was good enough, then surely they wouldn't have bought/signed another striker in the first place ?? They knew that he wasn't at the required level and then went on and paid a kings ransom to bring in a player that was (whether he can regain his pre injury form is still up for debate). Lets also be honest here and acknowledge that the guy was unable to command a regular first 11 place in the worst manure team in the past 20 odd years :oops:

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I always used to laugh at Welbeck and call him shit in a manc shirt. Just why should that change now that the only difference is he's wearing an Arsenal shirt?

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VAVAVOOM 14 wrote:I believe the correct phrase is "if you need a goal you need Thierry Henry".

Can't remember what match it was though.
I think it was a NLD at the bowl - we were trailing 0 - 1 TH14 comes on - benched due to injury - clueless brings him on with 20 minutes or so to go - He links up with Greedywhore and the rest as they say is History! :wink: :barscarf:

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SPUDMASHER wrote:The problem here is that it isn't his fault that you, or anyone else, doesn't consider him good enough.

United didn't sell him because he wasn't good enough. They sold him because they wanted Falcao and had to let somebody else go in order to get him. The choice was between Rooney, Van Persie and Wellbeck. They considered him to be the lesser of the three and he was sacrificed. Van rubberfacedcunt had to say he wasn't good enough or what was his justification for letting him go?

I'm not good enough to play for Arsenal. I never was, even in my youth. If I was selected by the club though, and gave my all in every game, I'd be disappointed to be called spuddyshit. I wouldn't deserve it!

There's no point in berating a player that gives his all despite maybe not being good enough. I think it is better focused at a useless tosser that has the ability but doesn't try.

Who couold you possibly mean Spuddy !??? :rubchin: :rubchin: :mrgreen:


I think Welbeck WILL come good - any striker needs to play continuously - he was doing okay - got injured Giroud is back - But next season I think Welbeck will really shine - But only IF the Clueless cant gives him a decent run of games.

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Blood_Gooner wrote:I always used to laugh at Welbeck and call him shit in a manc shirt. Just why should that change now that the only difference is he's wearing an Arsenal shirt?
because he's one of ours now. The name calling and ridiculing should stop and we should only want the best for/from him

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augie wrote:
SPUDMASHER wrote:The problem here is that it isn't his fault that you, or anyone else, doesn't consider him good enough.

United didn't sell him because he wasn't good enough. They sold him because they wanted Falcao and had to let somebody else go in order to get him. The choice was between Rooney, Van Persie and Wellbeck. They considered him to be the lesser of the three and he was sacrificed. Van rubberfacedcunt had to say he wasn't good enough or what was his justification for letting him go?

I'm not good enough to play for Arsenal. I never was, even in my youth. If I was selected by the club though, and gave my all in every game, I'd be disappointed to be called spuddyshit. I wouldn't deserve it!

There's no point in berating a player that gives his all despite maybe not being good enough. I think it is better focused at a

useless tosser that has the ability but doesn't try.


Why does your debut goalkeeping performance v the mackems spring to mind ? :wink: :lol: :lol: :barscarf:

Seriously though spuddy, do you not see a flaw in your argument re manure's reason for selling him ? I mean if they thought that he was good enough, then surely they wouldn't have bought/signed another striker in the first place ?? They knew that he wasn't at the required level and then went on and paid a kings ransom to bring in a player that was (whether he can regain his pre injury form is still up for debate). Lets also be honest here and acknowledge that the guy was unable to command a regular first 11 place in the worst manure team in the past 20 odd years :oops:

Not totally flawed mate. You can't talk about the worst Man U team in the last 20 years. It isn't significant!

What is significant is the competition for a place in his role, not the whole team. He was third choice behind one of the best strikers of recent years and the nations favourite. Every team will always want to sign a better player than they already have. It doesn't mean they think what they have is shit or not good enough. Its what is called gaining competitive advantage over your rivals. Is Wellbeck as good as as Falcao? Assuming Falcao is fit the answer is clearly no.
Just in the same way that a BMW M3 not being as good as a Ferrari 599 doesn't make the first option a shit one. If that analogy doesn't work for you then try this one......The Ox wouldn't get a sniff on the left of the park for Real Madrid because of two certain other players. Would that make him shit?

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Real Madrid have a top quality team and squad, so the ox not getting into their team would be no disgrace - wellbeck wasn't first choice either as a striker or a winger at manure and was behind some average players in the pecking order.....that isn't a good reflection on him

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augie wrote:Real Madrid have a top quality team and squad, so the ox not getting into their team would be no disgrace - wellbeck wasn't first choice either as a striker or a winger at manure and was behind some average players in the pecking order.....that isn't a good reflection on him
he should never be first choice as a winger at any club because that isn't his position. Team or squad has fuck all to do with the competition for individual positions. It's only about those that play in that position.

He was behind Rooney and Van Persie at Manure which is no disgrace. He was ahead of the little Mexican fella.

that would put him in the same position as it would the Ox if he were at Real Madrid but you don't give him the same allowance.

You're way too harsh on him mate.

I remember when we signed this little French fella from Juventus in 1999. He couldn't get a game for trying and was behind Inzaghi, Fonseca and Del Piero. On your logic that must have made him proper shit. :roll:

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