Arsenal charged by FA

[mcdowell42]

I wonder if the disgruntled 3rd party was actually in fact Wenger,he would just love us getting a transfer ban ,as it's right up his street.

[rodders999]

I'm pretty disgruntled over the Calum Chambers transfer due to the fact that it very much seems that we've spunked away 16 million quid on a bog average player.

[SteveO 35]

I'm pretty disgruntled over the Calum Chambers transfer due to the fact that it very much seems that we've spunked away 16 million quid on a bog average player.

Bit harsh even for you mate ! I thought he looked fantastic at the start of the season playing at the heart of the defence - did a good job there and was thrown in the deep end by TO1AW who was 'certainly' going to sign a CB when Vermaelen left

The same clueless bellend then shunted him to RB to cover permacrock Debuchy whilst the BFG struggled to find the motivation to play following the World Cup

[augie]

I'm pretty disgruntled over the Calum Chambers transfer due to the fact that it very much seems that we've spunked away 16 million quid on a bog average player.

Bit harsh even for you mate ! I thought he looked fantastic at the start of the season playing at the heart of the defence - did a good job there and was thrown in the deep end by TO1AW who was 'certainly' going to sign a CB when Vermaelen left

The same clueless bellend then shunted him to RB to cover permacrock Debuchy whilst the BFG struggled to find the motivation to play following the World Cup

The Swansea game is the one that has caused the fans to lose faith in him and I too feel that their reaction is harsh - that day he was hung out to dry by our "all speed no brains, individual glory hunter" winger who never helped him and allowed the kid to be torn apart by an experienced international winger That day showed where wally's motives lie and doing a job for the team isn't in his playbook

[mcdowell42]

Felt sorry for him in that game against Swansea ,and as Augie said he was getting destroyed by Montero ,had no help from Theo,but it also didn't help tht the guy 30 yrs in management let him swing in the wind.Us ordinary Joe soaps could see the problem but not the manager,if I remember rightly he eventually got subbed near the end of the game.

[SteveO 35]

Felt sorry for him in that game against Swansea ,and as Augie said he was getting destroyed by Montero ,had no help from Theo,but it also didn't help tht the guy 30 yrs in management let him swing in the wind.Us ordinary Joe soaps could see the problem but not the manager,if I remember rightly he eventually got subbed near the end of the game.

Are you saying that if 'Arry had been manager that he would have spotted that and changed it?

[northbank123]

I'm pretty disgruntled over the Calum Chambers transfer due to the fact that it very much seems that we've spunked away 16 million quid on a bog average player.

Bit harsh even for you mate ! I thought he looked fantastic at the start of the season playing at the heart of the defence - did a good job there and was thrown in the deep end by TO1AW who was 'certainly' going to sign a CB when Vermaelen left

The same clueless bellend then shunted him to RB to cover permacrock Debuchy whilst the BFG struggled to find the motivation to play following the World Cup

The bloke had played 20-odd senior games, all at RB. Apparently at youth team level he played CM but moved to RB because he was advised he would have more first-team opportunities there at Southampton.

Why on earth Wenger thought he was therefore good enough to be our 3rd-choice CB I don't know. He did well there to be fair but he was so inexperienced there and picked up 4 or 5 bookings getting dragged out of position and going straight through the back of players.

Firstly need to decide where he's going to play - none of this versatile utility man bollocks, pick a position and work at it - and then probably a season on loan.

[SteveO 35]

I'm pretty disgruntled over the Calum Chambers transfer due to the fact that it very much seems that we've spunked away 16 million quid on a bog average player.

Bit harsh even for you mate ! I thought he looked fantastic at the start of the season playing at the heart of the defence - did a good job there and was thrown in the deep end by TO1AW who was 'certainly' going to sign a CB when Vermaelen left

The same clueless bellend then shunted him to RB to cover permacrock Debuchy whilst the BFG struggled to find the motivation to play following the World Cup

The bloke had played 20-odd senior games, all at RB. Apparently at youth team level he played CM but moved to RB because he was advised he would have more first-team opportunities there at Southampton.

Why on earth Wenger thought he was therefore good enough to be our 3rd-choice CB I don't know. He did well there to be fair but he was so inexperienced there and picked up 4 or 5 bookings getting dragged out of position and going straight through the back of players.

Firstly need to decide where he's going to play - none of this versatile utility man bollocks, pick a position and work at it - and then probably a season on loan.

He was thrown in at CB because TO1AW allowed Miquel and Vermaelen to leave, and also Sagna and Jenkinson both of whom have played there in emergency situations.....and in the circumstances I think Chambers did brilliantly, especially considering his non-motivated partner and Kos playing through injuries. He had to play in some very important matches including Besiktas who we shut out twice.

I have faith he will come good. BFG and Kos were both fucking woeful in their first season playing at CB for us and were much older and more experienced.

Wenger was a fucking cretin that day down at Swansea. Chambers was thrown to the wolves in the same way the likes of Djourou and Traore were in the 8-2 massacre

[mcdowell42]

Felt sorry for him in that game against Swansea ,and as Augie said he was getting destroyed by Montero ,had no help from Theo,but it also didn't help tht the guy 30 yrs in management let him swing in the wind.Us ordinary Joe soaps could see the problem but not the manager,if I remember rightly he eventually got subbed near the end of the game.

Are you saying that if 'Arry had been manager that he would have spotted that and changed it?

Can't answer that question for you Stevo ,if only we had a non supporting arsenal fan on here with inside knowledge of the greatest manager ever,we could ask him and at the same time ask him where is Kalou.

[Theoperator]

Bit harsh even for you mate ! I thought he looked fantastic at the start of the season playing at the heart of the defence - did a good job there and was thrown in the deep end by TO1AW who was 'certainly' going to sign a CB when Vermaelen left

The same clueless bellend then shunted him to RB to cover permacrock Debuchy whilst the BFG struggled to find the motivation to play following the World Cup

Bit harsh on Debuchy, guy was assaulted by an Orc (Allegedly ) and dislocated his shoulder. His ankle injury earlier in the season was just one of those things, needed an op and IIRC was stretchered off, wouldn't put him as a permacrock, though I bow to your superior knowledge on permacrocks

[rodders999]

Just so I can further explain my earlier comment - Chambers got off to a great start and as far as I can remember was voted MOTM in our first three games of the season. I had really high hopes for the lad and despite a few wobbles his form didn't give much cause for concern until around the time of the match away at Swansea that Augie mentions (where he was destroyed by Montero) which came immediately after the clusterfcuk of a performance at home to Anderlecht where he was also torn to shreds at right back.

From then on he really struggled at RB, not to mention the run out in central midfield away at Southampton, which in fairness, was down to gross negligence by the manager and could quite easily have ruined him as he was already desperately low on confidence. I really hope he goes on to prove me wrong and has a a great career at the club but as he's lacking the most important attribute of the modern day defender - pace, I'd be really surprised if he does.

In my book 16 million quid is a lot of wonga to shell out for a guy who I'd rate as the third best RB at the club (you could even argue 4th best if you were to include Jenks) and in the current pecking order he'd also be fourth choice at CB. There's a lot of clamour for us to sign a top class centre back this summer to replace the BFG but I haven't heard one Arsenal fan suggest that they'd be happy to start the season with Chambers in that position.

So where do we go from here?

[Supagoon]

Chambers:

Let's not get hysterical over him. 16M now isn't what it used to be, it's a fair price for an English prospect. Like many young players you have ups and downs. People got very excited by his early 'mature' performances, but he had not been rigorously tested and he struggled when he came up against good attackers and lost confidence. We're not going to give up on him.

Remember people on this very forum clamouring to sell Ramsey and Wilshere (i'm sure some still want them out). None of our young players have had a Bendtner level of chances so let's not panic. Even Woj who I have no confidence in will probably get another chance.

As for Jack misdemeanour's, boys will be boys, especially if they're named jack.
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