THE WENGER THREAD

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Young maybe as a DM though Augie TBF, they generally improve with time as nous and positioning is a crucial part of their game. Unlike fast forwards whos pace lets them down in late 20s sometimes.
Being a bit charitable to AW (for a nanosecond :wink: ) seems he was right holding onto Coq, though maybe thats more due to AWs well known indecision and over loyalty much of the time.
25 is very young for a goalkeeper at this level BTW :wink:

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With a predicted end of season figure of around £250 million, Arsenal have the BIGGEST cash reserves in world football

This really has to be some kind of sick joke, when the title was within reach the old miser just will not add to his squad

If Scum win the Title that is me done.....

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Redarmy wrote:With a predicted end of season figure of around £250 million, Arsenal have the BIGGEST cash reserves in world football

This really has to be some kind of sick joke, when the title was within reach the old miser just will not add to his squad

If Scum win the Title that is me done.....
But mate you've got it all wrong. Everyone knows nasty Stan doesnt make ANY money available to Wenger.
There is NO money. How can Wenger improve the squad when Stan takes it all remember? He bleeds the club dry remember? Its all nasty Stans fault. :roll:
£200 million? What £200 million?

And you cant blame Wenger for our tactical frailties either. Remember "in-game management" and tactical changes are the players responsibility. Cant lay that at le profs door :roll:

And our apalling transfer windows. Thats down to our scouting team. What to fuck do they do anyway. Absolute muck but not Wengers fault. . :roll:

And dont get me started on the medical team..........

Good job Wengers there to oversee it all and keep everything ticking along nicely and keep us successfully in top four every season. I just dont know how we'd cope without him. £8 million per year is an absolute steal. The man is irreplaceable

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Nice to see the benefit of all those commercial deals Ivan banged on about so much more than a year ago

I wonder if we'll ever see it reinvested in the team.....but that would just get in the way of our core businesses of property development and global branding.

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SteveO 35 wrote:Nice to see the benefit of all those commercial deals Ivan banged on about so much more than a year ago

I wonder if we'll ever see it reinvested in the team.....but that would just get in the way of our core businesses of property development and global branding.
But, but, but we're a successful football franchise, how dare you complain.... but thanks for your interest :twisted:

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Wengers had £200 million available to reinvest in the team. Didnt use it. (Well he bought a non-playing Egyptian for what 12mill?)

I know............
Lets all protest against Stan to make even more funds available to Wenger so he wont use that either. :rubchin:

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armchair wrote:Wengers had £200 million available to reinvest in the team. Didnt use it. (Well he bought a non-playing Egyptian for what 12mill?)

I know............
Lets all protest against Stan to make even more funds available to Wenger so he wont use that either. :rubchin:
We need to save that cash to compete with the likes of Chelski and fulfill our prophecy of competing with the Barca's of this world! £250m anticipated year end cash, and still the excuses will keep coming. Yep a sick joke that he signed just zero outfield players over summer, but had no problems telling the fans to pay up on more expensive tickets. :roll:

"You pay the price and watch the game then you judge whether it was worth it"

0 goals v Southampton
0 goals v Stoke
0 goals v Chavs
0 goals v Hull
0 goals v Barca

Thankfully our amazing fans were "just there to enjoy the day out" and watch us have our panties pulled down by big bad Barca, who played in first gear :oops:
Glad we moved from Highbury for this. Be fearful though imagine what'd happen if we lost Arsene? We could do a Charlton, or worse a Leeds! (Ignore examples of Chelski, Citeh, Juve, Madrid, Atletico etc)

Give Arsene another 4 years
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Redarmy wrote:With a predicted end of season figure of around £250 million, Arsenal have the BIGGEST cash reserves in world football

This really has to be some kind of sick joke, when the title was within reach the old miser just will not add to his squad

If Scum win the Title that is me done.....
While the AKB'S use Sanchez and Ozil as prime examples of Wenger's supposed willingness to spend, it's forgotten how many transfer windows around those signings that we have wasted with little or no activity. When you consider how open the title race is this season, even a slight upgrade on Giroud or a top class DM could have made the difference. Instead, we have a manager who views players on the basis that they are fit for purpose(finishing in the top 4) and isn't willing to go that extra step in order to be successful. He really is the board's wet dream, spends fuck all and 'achieves' top 4 every season.

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BFG4 wrote:
Redarmy wrote:With a predicted end of season figure of around £250 million, Arsenal have the BIGGEST cash reserves in world football

This really has to be some kind of sick joke, when the title was within reach the old miser just will not add to his squad

If Scum win the Title that is me done.....
While the AKB'S use Sanchez and Ozil as prime examples of Wenger's supposed willingness to spend, it's forgotten how many transfer windows around those signings that we have wasted with little or no activity. When you consider how open the title race is this season, even a slight upgrade on Giroud or a top class DM could have made the difference. Instead, we have a manager who views players on the basis that they are fit for purpose(finishing in the top 4) and isn't willing to go that extra step in order to be successful. He really is the board's wet dream, spends fuck all and 'achieves' top 4 every season.
As far as Ozil goes, I still firmly believe he was signed primarily by Gazidis who had been quoted in the press as saying we were spending and who was imo frustrated by Wengers embarrassing, shambolic, small-time failure over Suarez.
Also it was at a time when season ticket projections were falling and I belkeve Gazidis had to step in. Wenger may have recommended Gazidis but I believe there is no love lost between them.

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armchair wrote:
BFG4 wrote:
Redarmy wrote:With a predicted end of season figure of around £250 million, Arsenal have the BIGGEST cash reserves in world football

This really has to be some kind of sick joke, when the title was within reach the old miser just will not add to his squad

If Scum win the Title that is me done.....
While the AKB'S use Sanchez and Ozil as prime examples of Wenger's supposed willingness to spend, it's forgotten how many transfer windows around those signings that we have wasted with little or no activity. When you consider how open the title race is this season, even a slight upgrade on Giroud or a top class DM could have made the difference. Instead, we have a manager who views players on the basis that they are fit for purpose(finishing in the top 4) and isn't willing to go that extra step in order to be successful. He really is the board's wet dream, spends fuck all and 'achieves' top 4 every season.
As far as Ozil goes, I still firmly believe he was signed primarily by Gazidis who had been quoted in the press as saying we were spending and who was imo frustrated by Wengers embarrassing, shambolic, small-time failure over Suarez.
Also it was at a time when season ticket projections were falling and I belkeve Gazidis had to step in. Wenger may have recommended Gazidis but I believe there is no love lost between them.
The AKBs will get a rude awakening this summer I reckon, if/when we fail to win the title because Ozil still hasn't signed the deal that's on the table and not had Alexis. Ozil I can see buggering off to somewhere like Munich or Juve, whilst for Alexis it makes perfect sense to hop ship to Pep's Citeh (Pep is the one who propelled him into the big time at Barca).
Alexis I reckon is a long shot but Ozil I can definitely see going if the PL is chucked again this season (it will be). Still at least Giroud and Wally are collecting almost £300k a week between them :roll:

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Ikechukwu1 wrote: The AKBs will get a rude awakening this summer I reckon, if/when we fail to win the title because Ozil still hasn't signed the deal that's on the table and not had Alexis. Ozil I can see buggering off to somewhere like Munich or Juve, whilst for Alexis it makes perfect sense to hop ship to Pep's Citeh (Pep is the one who propelled him into the big time at Barca).
Alexis I reckon is a long shot but Ozil I can definitely see going if the PL is chucked again this season (it will be). Still at least Giroud and Wally are collecting almost £300k a week between them :roll:
Yea I can see us failing to win the league, (god forbid we finish behind tottenham) and Ozil leaving.
Wonder how the Wenger supporters will square that away?

Didnt Wenger say after signing his new bumper contract in 2014 that he'd "win the PL within 3 years"?

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SteveO 35 wrote:Nice to see the benefit of all those commercial deals Ivan banged on about so much more than a year ago

I wonder if we'll ever see it reinvested in the team.....but that would just get in the way of our core businesses of property development and global branding.
We're just 'off the shoulder' of the European giants, you know :barscarf:





Shame we don't play like that any more :banghead:

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Ikechukwu1 wrote:
armchair wrote:
BFG4 wrote:
Redarmy wrote:With a predicted end of season figure of around £250 million, Arsenal have the BIGGEST cash reserves in world football

This really has to be some kind of sick joke, when the title was within reach the old miser just will not add to his squad

If Scum win the Title that is me done.....
While the AKB'S use Sanchez and Ozil as prime examples of Wenger's supposed willingness to spend, it's forgotten how many transfer windows around those signings that we have wasted with little or no activity. When you consider how open the title race is this season, even a slight upgrade on Giroud or a top class DM could have made the difference. Instead, we have a manager who views players on the basis that they are fit for purpose(finishing in the top 4) and isn't willing to go that extra step in order to be successful. He really is the board's wet dream, spends fuck all and 'achieves' top 4 every season.
As far as Ozil goes, I still firmly believe he was signed primarily by Gazidis who had been quoted in the press as saying we were spending and who was imo frustrated by Wengers embarrassing, shambolic, small-time failure over Suarez.
Also it was at a time when season ticket projections were falling and I belkeve Gazidis had to step in. Wenger may have recommended Gazidis but I believe there is no love lost between them.
The AKBs will get a rude awakening this summer I reckon, if/when we fail to win the title because Ozil still hasn't signed the deal that's on the table and not had Alexis. Ozil I can see buggering off to somewhere like Munich or Juve, whilst for Alexis it makes perfect sense to hop ship to Pep's Citeh (Pep is the one who propelled him into the big time at Barca).
Alexis I reckon is a long shot but Ozil I can definitely see going if the PL is chucked again this season (it will be). Still at least Giroud and Wally are collecting almost £300k a week between them :roll:
The thing is though mate, it won't be a rude awakening from those who fall at the feet of TO1AW. They will simply declare how Alexis and Ozil were traitors and how it was only a money based decision to join Citeh or wherever they may end up.

We've seen all this before haven't we?

5 years since he made the same declaration I wonder if we'll hear "you can not sell Alexis and Ozil and say that you are a big club"

Or maybe "the big players do not ask 'did you win the League Cup', they ask 'do you play in the Champions League'" - yep you heard it boys, that's what Alexis and Ozil joined for. To squeak through the group stage and get wiped out in the last 16

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For all my criticism's of Wenger, I have to commend him for being that good of a salesman to convince Ozil and Sanchez to join his band of losers. Imagine playing for Real Madrid or Barca, and joining a team that hadn't even finished in the top two in the league since 2005, and in the case of Ozil, joining a team that hadn't won a trophy since 2005.

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BFG4: Wenker doesn't even deserve that faint backhanded praise. Ozil literally had nowhere else to go, nobody was willing to stump up the £42m. None of the Italian clubs could afford him and he obviously couldn't go Barca. That leaves Citeh (they had Silva), ManYoo (shoulda signed him weren't interested) and us.
Sanchez is the same - live in Mersey and get your house robbed every night? Or live in London, nice fat wages and automatic starter when fit? No brainer!

SteveO you're dead right. I don't know why I think AKBs would see the light. As pointed out by Armchair, they'll resort to the usual mental tactics of blaming the individual players, Mark Carney, interest rates, the low oil prices, Citeh, the board, and the Supremes. :roll:
It's like trying to convince those nutjobs in Waco, Texas, to stop following David Koresh. According to them lot, Koresh was the chosen One and no amount of incontrovertible evidence is going to persuade them to change course.

It's nights like tonight, as you witness oil money Leicester pulling clear at the top of the PL, that you think back to the years of excuses about "financial resources to compete" and that year-end anticipated £250m cash in the bank. I wonder whose fault it is that not a SINGLE outfield player was signed over summer? Kroenke again? :rubchin:

Still. Least our fans "just turn up to enjoy the occasion" as we admit our pathetic inferiority :oops:

On an unrelated note, I've just seen Diego Simeone become the first manager in La Liga history to beat Real Madrid in their backyard on three consecutive occasions. That's with a lower wage bill than Stoke lads. Days after a tough away CL fixture. Why doesn't Simeone spend every pre-match gushing about how amazing Ronaldo and Modric are and how it's impossible to compete with Real eh? :roll:
That's the a second year out of three Simeone has Atletico competing for the title, whilst excelling in Europe to a level Lord A-hole couldn't dream of. Still. "Who would You replace him with?"
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