Other Matches Thread

[rodders999]

The chavs have spent more on players in the last 2 years then every other team combined in the conference league has in their entire history FFS.

Another UEFA farce.

[the playing mantis]

Last season was,I think, the last season that teams dropped from the Champions League into the Europa. And it shows. Last season Atlanta beat Liverpool on the way and then the newly crowned Bundesliga champions in the final..Bilboa fucked up v United otherwise it was , well it was a third rate competition won by a third rate team which is proven by their domestic league position.
Spurs taunting Arsenal tonight, it is like Orient taunting West Ham if Orient win the playoff.

Spot on Brady

And the financials are not all that either given its not even the difference Vs league position you would expect both of these to occupy top 8. Yes it helps buts it's not transformational at all as we all would have expected them to be at least top 8 respectively. They are financially worse off had they not chucked the league in

[the playing mantis]

Were people this upset when Spurs won the Norwich Hospital Charity Cup?

I think some on here were.

Yes there will be media and scum fan noise for a while. Buts it's easy to burst the bubble by simply stating facts. Weakest Europa league ever full of dross.and when they continue to be shite next season it will all be forgotten.

If this is the vaunted coming of age and springboard and they massively kick on next season then I take it all back. But I really don't see it whoever is in charge as there first team and squad is incredibly weak

[the playing mantis]

Will we have to go through all this nonsense again next week when the Chavs win the Europa Conference League South Windscreen Vans Shield with people getting all depressed that we weren't in it?

Very different Perry.

Firstly, like them or loathe them, they're not the scum. Secondly, I don't think their fans will treat it as the big deal that scum fans will treat this win. Thirdly, no CL place with the trophy. Fourth, they aren't in the desperate financial mess that the scum are in and this CL qualification will seriously help them.

I for one, would rather the chavs don't win it, but won't lose a minutes sleep if they do.

My main thing was finances retro, but it's not going to make that much difference. Had they not chucked in the league to focus they would likely be same place financially.

[Limerick Gooner]

The things still to come from this are the parade through the streets and the Super Cup. Hope they get smashed something like 8-0 by Inter or PSG.

[the playing mantis]

The things still to come from this are the parade through the streets and the Super Cup. Pest they get raped something like 8-0 by the Inter or PSG.

The fact that United said they wouldn't have a parade and how they downplayed says it all.

It's a small clubs big day out.

End of.

[the playing mantis]

Our hated next door neighbour buys a brand new trabant and boasts about it. How do we feel? Do we get jealous because our semi premium German (promises a lot but under the surface but lacking torque) is constantly in the garage needing fixing?

Or do we smile and pity him slightly whilst remaining angry at our own constant breakdowns.

When/if he comes back in a few years with some fancy Italian whip then yes we lose our shit.

But I don't believe this has any bearing on that and those days won't occur...at least whilst ours remains in the garage.

[rodders999]

This was their route to the final FFS

Qarabag / Ferencváros / AZ Alkmaar / Galatasaray (lost) / Roma (drew) / Rangers (drew) / Hoffenheim / Elfsborg / Frankfurt / Bodø.

[Bradywasking]

This was their route to the final FFS

Qarabag / Ferencváros / AZ Alkmaar / Galatasaray (lost) / Roma (drew) / Rangers (drew) / Hoffenheim / Elfsborg / Frankfurt / Bodø.

That sums it all up.

[Limerick Gooner]

This was their route to the final FFS

Qarabag / Ferencváros / AZ Alkmaar / Galatasaray (lost) / Roma (drew) / Rangers (drew) / Hoffenheim / Elfsborg / Frankfurt / Bodø.

Literally pathetic. Conference League level. Yes they have won a trophy but the question should be how could either Spurs or United not win it?? The bedwetters on here don’t want to know though.

[Retro Gunner]

Will we have to go through all this nonsense again next week when the Chavs win the Europa Conference League South Windscreen Vans Shield with people getting all depressed that we weren't in it?

Very different Perry.

Firstly, like them or loathe them, they're not the scum. Secondly, I don't think their fans will treat it as the big deal that scum fans will treat this win. Thirdly, no CL place with the trophy. Fourth, they aren't in the desperate financial mess that the scum are in and this CL qualification will seriously help them.

I for one, would rather the chavs don't win it, but won't lose a minutes sleep if they do.

My main thing was finances retro, but it's not going to make that much difference. Had they not chucked in the league to focus they would likely be same place financially.

The scum will get 11 million for finishing 17th. a 6th place finish would have got them 42 million, so a 31 million shortfall.

I believe we got something like 100 for qualifying for the CL knock out phase. They are the numbers that the scum now have the possibility of achieving and that blows away the figure for a PL finish. That's why I'm pissed off. I wanted them to get a 17th place finish, 11 million and no CL place, because that would have dumped them into an even bigger financial hole.

I'm also pissed off that they won a trophy and I'm sorry, but I think the rationalising of it on here as "it's worthless, it's like the Autoglass trophy, blah bah", while maybe true, is only people trying to console themselves. A proper Gooner doesn't want that lot winning a cheap box of chocolates in the church raffle. To make it worse, their two bob supporters will be delighted and will consider it a better season than ours.

[Limerick Gooner]

Will we have to go through all this nonsense again next week when the Chavs win the Europa Conference League South Windscreen Vans Shield with people getting all depressed that we weren't in it?

Very different Perry.

Firstly, like them or loathe them, they're not the scum. Secondly, I don't think their fans will treat it as the big deal that scum fans will treat this win. Thirdly, no CL place with the trophy. Fourth, they aren't in the desperate financial mess that the scum are in and this CL qualification will seriously help them.

I for one, would rather the chavs don't win it, but won't lose a minutes sleep if they do.

My main thing was finances retro, but it's not going to make that much difference. Had they not chucked in the league to focus they would likely be same place financially.

The scum will get 11 million for finishing 17th. a 6th place finish would have got them 42 million, so a 31 million shortfall.

I believe we got something like 100 for qualifying for the CL knock out phase. They are the numbers that the scum now have the possibility of achieving and that blows away the figure for a PL finish. That's why I'm pissed off. I wanted them to get a 17th place finish, 11 million and no CL place, because that would have dumped them into an even bigger financial hole.

I'm also pissed off that they won a trophy and I'm sorry, but I think the rationalising of it on here as "it's worthless, it's like the Autoglass trophy, blah bah", while maybe true, is only people trying to console themselves. A proper Gooner doesn't want that lot winning a cheap box of chocolates in the church raffle. To make it worse, their two bob supporters will be delighted and will consider it a better season than ours.

What can we do about it though? Nothing.

It’s a shit trophy. Had to beat Championship level fodder on the way to facing the worst United side in living memory. If you are jealous of that then more fool you.

[the playing mantis]

Will we have to go through all this nonsense again next week when the Chavs win the Europa Conference League South Windscreen Vans Shield with people getting all depressed that we weren't in it?

Very different Perry.

Firstly, like them or loathe them, they're not the scum. Secondly, I don't think their fans will treat it as the big deal that scum fans will treat this win. Thirdly, no CL place with the trophy. Fourth, they aren't in the desperate financial mess that the scum are in and this CL qualification will seriously help them.

I for one, would rather the chavs don't win it, but won't lose a minutes sleep if they do.

My main thing was finances retro, but it's not going to make that much difference. Had they not chucked in the league to focus they would likely be same place financially.

The scum will get 11 million for finishing 17th. a 6th place finish would have got them 42 million, so a 31 million shortfall.

I believe we got something like 100 for qualifying for the CL knock out phase. They are the numbers that the scum now have the possibility of achieving and that blows away the figure for a PL finish. That's why I'm pissed off. I wanted them to get a 17th place finish, 11 million and no CL place, because that would have dumped them into an even bigger financial hole.

I'm also pissed off that they won a trophy and I'm sorry, but I think the rationalising of it on here as "it's worthless, it's like the Autoglass trophy, blah bah", while maybe true, is only people trying to console themselves. A proper Gooner doesn't want that lot winning a cheap box of chocolates in the church raffle. To make it worse, their two bob supporters will be delighted and will consider it a better season than ours.

It's 30 odd mil for qualifying.

Big fat Martin Samuel in today's times. I did think it was more but he is right

I dont want them winning anything. But I'm not bothered by it particularly for the reasons given. I doubt anyone hates them more than i do but this is amusing as irrespective of how much they go on it's simple to point out how easy and devalued the comp is and that really burst there bubble and niggles them. That's not consoling that's a fact.

The media have even been pointing out the state of the comp as well in recent days. It's laughable the overplay of this is, springboard, will change things, etc just like the league cup win 20 years back did etc...a club who wins the occasional trophy is what they are and what the remain. Modern hysteria simply blows things out of all proportion. In the cold light of day when there struggling next season which I fully expect, this will be long forgotten, just as west hams conference was.

Equally it could be said those with a visceral hatred of our own manager will use anything to beat him with and knock the club!

[Retro Gunner]

Rob, the Europa when cl teams dropped down into it so completely different...

This is like pulling the big fat ugly bird in a club and boasting about it afterwards as any holes a goal.

Utter nonsense from ugly blokes who have to sink to such depth to get there dicks wet.

Just repeat that to any scum fans will properly annoy them as they know it's true.

Fair enough Mantis, but what if you're a reasonably good looking boke, but not good looking enough to pull the stunning birds that you fancy like mad and have to watch as you leave the club every Saturday and your good looking mates are taking those birds home? Do you look across at the ugly bloke who's taking the ugly bird home and think "well, at least I'm not him", as you walk home alone to knock one out in your cold, single bed.

It's your analogy mate. We might not be the ugly bloke with the ugly girl, but we ain't pulling the stunners either, even though our mum (Arteta) keeps telling us to iron our shirt a little bit better next week and we're bound to pull a super model. All we're pulling is our own cock.

Well considering the fat bird isn't let into the club we are in then no. We can't pull the fat bird even if we wanted to, which we don't. Yet pulling her is nothing to boast about. We should rather be proud of not stopping to those depths imo as we have had to fail massively to get there. So it's like beating ourselves up that someone else has pulled something we didn't want in the first place, we have in the past pulled decent birds or got smelly fingers at least, yet because of a drought do we really want to resort to the dregs, or more accurately get jealous of those having the dregs, and boasting about it? Makes no sense.

Would you rather win a bunch of 2nd rate trophies...well 1 in this instance, or get close and have the potential possibility of winning something good? Maybe if they kept winning them, but they are not, and we were really as bad as some make out, we are not and we all know we could be fixed in an instant with the right man in charge.
And are we pssd off that whomever one the fa trophy or ldv vans and we didn't? If not why not? Are we pssd of when Chelsea win the conference or when west ham won it? No we laughed at west ham as did the scum.

Are we losing our shit about palace winning the fa cup? No. Yet that a decent achievement evens despite it's devalued status of big clubs not taking as seriously as they once did.

It's the zenith data systems of Europe. Don't have to achieve anything to enter and the better teams are excluded. Even the league cup has more cachet/difficulty.

Have them something meaningful and then we can beat the club with it.

Not being overtly bothered about this doesn't mean we are happy with our own club.

Yes they won a trophy, but an utterly 2nd rate trophy.

You're completely missing the point. We don't want the fat ugly bird, but we don't pull the good looking birds either. It's always going home alone, wishing you were with the stunner, but trying to console yourself that you're better than the guy with the ugly bird, as you knock one out to a flickering fluorescent tube in your bedsit.

Never mind, old mother Arteta tells you it will all be different next weekend, after you've bought a 2nd rate aftershave, because you never buy the top notch ones that the good looking guys use and a snide designer shirt from the market stall, that's a little bit frayed on the collar, but hopefully no one will notice.

10 + years of nothingness under the French clown and we're 5 years into the next mind numbing phase, with no end in sight. You know, watching that first half against Newcastle last weekend, everything about the performance was peak Wenger. I kept expecting to see Denilson and Song in midfield.

It's not about winning the fucking devalued Europa League, it's just putting it into stark relief that I've seen it all before and with Lego Head at the helm and the owners we've got (although they've certainly backed him), nothing will change.

[the playing mantis]

Retro your letting your hatred of arteta cloud it.

The 2 things are not mutually exclusive..
.we can want him gone but also not believe scum winning a 2nd rate comp has any bearing on our situation. Yes the media and fans are annoying but actually looking at what they have achieved puts in in perspective and makes them look silly for creaming themselves as they once laughed at west ham for the conference win.

If they were winning things we could the that's different, although I don't give a rats arse about the league or fa cup either tbh as the former although nice to win is pony and the latter kept AW in a job for years when it shouldn't have.

Had arteta won the Europa in its previous form or it's current devalued form would you that make a difference to us wanting him gone? To me it wouldnt one bit as it's a hollow victory that doesn't paper over chasms that exist in the proper comps.

Anyway I will agree to disagree. Feel free to get worked up about this.

Yes I'd prefer they didn't win but it's easy to burst there bubble.

If this really leads them to kick on then I will happily admit to being wrong.