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In all fairness bren that is total bullshit Cesc is by far and away our best player and is being forced into carrying a team with too many average players......I actually feel sorry for the guy cos he has shown us tremendous loyalty and yet wenger and the board give him donkey team-mates and expect him to pull miracles from his arse
RocastleRock wrote:Abit harsh calling the rest of the team shit. Men agaist boys today but most teams in europe would struggle to beat chelsea in this kind of form.
Why is it harsh? Not just on todays performance, but lets be brutally honest here, Denilson, Almunia, Song, Diaby, Eboue, Bendtner amongst others are shit, no where near the standard that should be playing for us
lagerisgood1981 wrote:.... And AC MILAN away (above)
Knew this one would come up and it was his best game in an important match.....but Diaby was better on the night.
Spurs at home, really isnt as big as it once was, and also the opposition were pure shite and as i said in previous post gave him acres of space to play his own game.
IM NOT SAYING CESC IS A BAD PLAYER IM SAYING HE'S OVERRATED.......AND HE IS.
I don't think he's all that to be honest. Yes, he's better than Denilson, Song and the others he's been lumbered with in midfield, but he's not consistent, and lacks impact on a game that's required for a captain/player in his position.
I'm not denying he's a good player; but if today was 2004, he wouldn't be a definite on the team sheet. Yes, he's had great games, but not as many as he should have. I don't rely on him as being capable to swing a game, which is a shame. If he left, I don't think we'll miss him as much as many think, as evidenced by our win percentage in the games he's missed in the last three years.
Firstly how is he meant to carry a midfield that all too frequently includes such "talented" players as diaby, eboue, song etc ??
Secondly how is he supposed to play his best when the whole fcuking team are getting physically pushed about like fcuking rag dolls today ? The sight of traore going absolutely flying through the air from a fair shoulder from drogba was embarrassing to be truthful and that is in now way a knock on traore. Wenger has built a team that could play in the lepruchan world cup and then he expects them to be able to compete with the strong physical teams cos we play beautiful football Bollox to that...put in a PV4 type player alongside cesc and then he would start setting the place alight (wouldnt stop us leaking goals at an alarming rate though )
lagerisgood1981 wrote:.... And AC MILAN away (above)
Spurs at home, really isnt as big as it once was, and also the opposition were pure shite and as i said in previous post gave him acres of space to play his own game.
Spurs at home will always be big and the fact they are (annoyingly) "up there" in the league means your talking nothing but rubbish.
Please explain how Spurs isn't as big as it once was.....
He wasn't even in the Spain first XI that won Euro 2008 last year, and only made an appearance in the final due to an injury to another player.
If he was the player that everyone claims he is, this wouldn't have been the case.
And I'm not buying the "he's only as good as the players around him" line. Wright shone through in a team of utter dross, and I'd imagine that Henry and Bergkamp would've shown their class in amongst a bunch of losers as well.
To say that Fabregas can only play well if there are only good players "supporting" him simply reveals his limitations.
lagerisgood1981 wrote:.... And AC MILAN away (above)
Spurs at home, really isnt as big as it once was, and also the opposition were pure shite and as i said in previous post gave him acres of space to play his own game.
Spurs at home will always be big and the fact they are (annoyingly) "up there" in the league means your talking nothing but rubbish.
Please explain how Spurs isn't as big as it once was.....
I ACTUALLY CAN'T BELIEVE THIS POST EXISTS
Exactly. Bren, you usually make decent posts, but this is one of the worst threads ever. Make it a sticky so people can laugh at it for years to come please!
Cesc is by far and away our best player and is being forced into carrying a team with too many average players......I actually feel sorry for the guy cos he has shown us tremendous loyalty and yet wenger and the board give him donkey team-mates and expect him to pull miracles from his arse 
Bollox to that...put in a PV4 type player alongside cesc and then he would start setting the place alight (wouldnt stop us leaking goals at an alarming rate though 
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