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USMartin wrote:Do some of you seriously think running Arsene Wenger out is doing enough for the club if there are no changes in spending policy after he's gone?

Do you really think just getting rid for the sake of getting rid actually will improve anything is nothing else is changed?
If a new manager comes in he wont be fucking stupid. He will make sure that the only way he comes in is if the transfer money wenger has up his old decrepit arse is available for new signings.

Any fool can see we have some cash available but he just wont spend

Like he said in January…

“If tv doesn’t come back soon I will sign a new CBâ€

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New Keeper ( just confirmed )

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Toffee

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Good ol Neville Southall !

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Do some of you seriously think running Arsene Wenger out is doing enough for the club if there are no changes in spending policy after he's gone?


ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just to get a new manager who is:

a) Tactically astute

b) competent enough to drop those players who really aren't good enough


Would make a HUGE difference to Arsenal Football Club.

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TeeCee wrote:It'll be a French keeper, will have to be a third choice for their club because no-one will let their first choice or reserve keeper go. So whoever it s will be mediocre at best.
Last year, Fullop was Sunderland number one and went on loan to Man City so its not out of the blue but I don't think we will get a number one 'keeper.

Frey/Bourc would be ideal for me.

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talk of david james on some other forums. Few whispers going around!

this wouldnt shock me at all

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To be honest I think James would do a better job than Almunia.

I fear it may be Stuart Taylor. :roll:

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TeeCee wrote:
Do some of you seriously think running Arsene Wenger out is doing enough for the club if there are no changes in spending policy after he's gone?


ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just to get a new manager who is:

a) Tactically astute

b) competent enough to drop those players who really aren't good enough


Would make a HUGE difference to Arsenal Football Club.
You haven't really addressed the question - what is a new manager is not given any more financial support than the current manager and based on what we actually know which is that despite the club having over 100 million pounds banked away the club and the manager and The Board have shown no urgency of any sort to see any of it spent.

Strikes me that any new manager will either have to count to their own bargain foreign or bargin English Players to try and right things and that isn't the answer either.

More of the same should not be what we want, and pretending that's anything but what ithat s is an exercise in Naivety and Denial if the spending policies do not change.

It's simple if the Board want more money spent they will instruct the manager to do so and support him doing so. If he does not they will sack him. They have had six years now in which to prove they feel this way and yet all they have done is pay the same manager more money to keep not spending.

I'll ask it more directly - what evidence do you have that it is certain a new manager will have more money at their disposal and the ability to actually spend it as they see best? The biggest clue to this answer is in how the spending is approached now because the Board could change that in one afternoon and has multiple choices as to how to do so that they refuse to exercise.

By your logic its more likely we'll be fighting for a Europa League place that anything else in years to come than fighting to win the Premiership or Champions League. Is that really acceptible success for Arsene Wenger's replacement since not coming in first or second wasn't good enough for him?

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The only difference that would make is it would cow critics into not questioning the policies for another two or three years because of the change. When I was on Arseblog someone said as much. I suggested when they insisted Arsene Wenger was bhind all this what they would do if he was no longer manager and nothing changed and they literally said they would have to give the new man and the Board five years before questioning that.

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Martin - no Manager worth having would never come to Arsenal unless transfer money is available.


Its quite obvious that we have some money as he was going to sign players in January!
We may not have 100mil but we do have 30-40 mil to spend if need be , plus we can sell some of teh dead wood

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USMartin wrote:The only difference that would make is it would cow critics into not questioning the policies for another two or three years because of the change. When I was on Arseblog someone said as much. I suggested when they insisted Arsene Wenger was bhind all this what they would do if he was no longer manager and nothing changed and they literally said they would have to give the new man and the Board five years before questioning that.

You mean another forum has the pleasure of your crap marty and i thought it was only us who that particular avenue of pleasure :roll:

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mikeyb772001 wrote:Martin - no Manager worth having would never come to Arsenal unless transfer money is available.


Its quite obvious that we have some money as he was going to sign players in January!
We may not have 100mil but we do have 30-40 mil to spend if need be , plus we can sell some of teh dead wood
Agreed there is money - the question is is there the will to use it, and more improtantly use it properly? I don't see any indication of that from our Board at this point or anyother since 2006.

Your first line is absolutely correct. It's part of why Arsene Wenger has no fear of getting sacked, and worse maybe, why if he somehow were he would almost certainly end up being replaced by someone "inside the club" like A Steve Bould, Martin Keown neither with any Premiership management experience, or Tony Adams with minimal management experience because we'll all feel compelled to get behind our old hero and legend and and they will told just keep us top four and don't press us for dosh and your seat is safe.

The only way we get another manager worth happening is if we overpay them for finishing iin the top four, because I don't think they will get any more money. Like I say the proof or if not proof strong clue to it is right in front of us and that is the absolute lack of pressure to spend more money being placed on the current manager now and in the past several years. What have you seen the Board do or say that convinces you it would be any different for a new man?

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This guy must be on crack.

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I strongly believe that any new manager would only come in if there were transfer funds available to him. It would be suicide if not.

New guy would come in get maybe 40 mil , sell a few players happy days

Job done

anyway this is about a loan keeper haha

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mikeyb772001 wrote:I strongly believe that any new manager would only come in if there were transfer funds available to him. It would be suicide if not.

New guy would come in get maybe 40 mil , sell a few players happy days

Job done

anyway this is about a loan keeper haha
Not to back up USMartin here, but if you really think that mate you're crackers ! There's no way any new manager will be coming in and spending 40M on players. And if you say well they'd have to or they wouldn't come, then they won't be coming in anytime soon !

Have you heard the things Ivan Gazdis says ? Promoting, developing, retaining and rewarding talent. Spedning money on the current squad as opposed to spening money bringing in talent.

I would say the whole "project" is the club's policy. Not soley Arsene's and not soley the board's. I think they all agree that is the way Arsenal should be run. I'd get used to it if I were you because I don't see it changing.

I think when they moved to the emirates, they intention WAS to spend more on players to move us to the top of the tree. Then Man City came along and blew all the fees out of the water. 40M for Adebayor and Toure ? 22M on Lescott..LESCOT FFS 22M !!!!!!!!! So we maybe had to adapt our policy and try and keep hold of and develop talent as oppose to spend to bring in ? Is it better to try and develop Johan D, or spend 15M on Cahill ?

Now, I am not saying I agree with it. This is just my take on why it's happening.

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mikeyb772001 wrote:I strongly believe that any new manager would only come in if there were transfer funds available to him. It would be suicide if not.

New guy would come in get maybe 40 mil , sell a few players happy days

Job done

anyway this is about a loan keeper haha
It's suicide now if your goal is to win things yet nothing is done about it six years running. Why would they do anything different if we won't pressure them to?

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