HANGZHOU GREENTOWN OFFICIAL THREAD

Dan_85 · Post by **Dan_85** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:26 pm

lol @ the Arsenal Player half time show. Looks like they're presenting from some CGI inter-planetary spaceship

Post by **T.S** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:27 pm

That 'studio' is ridiculous!!!

Henry Norris 1913 · Post by **Henry Norris 1913** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:30 pm

I didn't know the game kicked off yet- ESPN said 6pm!

AND we're drawing! jesus

Dan_85 · Post by **Dan_85** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:31 pm

Christ, Arsenal know how to kick you when you're down don't they lol

"Here's some footage of Seaman, Dixon, Winterburn, Campbell, Adams etc to entertain you"

mcdowell42 · Post by **mcdowell42** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:32 pm

Henry Norris 1913 wrote:I didn't know the game kicked off yet- ESPN said 6pm!
AND we're drawing! jesus

Yeah i thought that too but its delayed coverage later

Post by **T.S** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:35 pm

Lookout Greentown. Chamakh is coming on

AFCWozza · Post by **AFCWozza** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:38 pm

tonysaunders wrote:Lookout Greentown. Chamakh is coming on

His link-up play is superb, expect us to create a lot more chances this half with Walcott, Ramsey, Wilshire, Chamakh and Miyachi

DUFFMAN · Post by **DUFFMAN** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:38 pm

anyone else see that smug,arrogant nod wenger did to pat rice after vela scrambled the ball into the net?

" see pat, i told you we dont need to buy a striker.Who needs benzema?"

piresistible · Post by **piresistible** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:39 pm

Accrington 1 - 1 Blackburn R.

piresistible · Post by **piresistible** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:40 pm

DUFFMAN wrote:anyone else see that smug,arrogant nod wenger did to pat rice after vela scrambled the ball into the net?

" see pat, i told you we dont need to buy a striker.Who needs benzema?"

wtf - give vela a chance mate...

Final socre 5-1 to us

Pilly · Post by **Pilly** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:41 pm

tonysaunders wrote:
Chips and Chocolate wrote:Getting bullied like that by a Chinese team tells you a lot about that Arsenal team!
I'm trying to look at positives but seriously I can't: we don't know how to defend, that formation is fuckin' useless, we can't get past the center-backs! We're all so predictable! We're absolutely fucked if we don't sign at least 2 defenders but alas we've already made all our summer signings!
And why on earth does Wenger keep giving the likes of Vela or Rosicky a run? They'll never make it as Arsenal players...

Well let's hope for a better 2nd half
Whilst I think that we do need to buy a centre half or two, I'm not sure that's necessarily the problem. Vermalen is a class defender and Koscielny and Djourou aren't bad players. In my opinion, the problem isn't so much personnel, it's the way they're coached. It's hard to judge because you can't quite put your finger on what exactly is wrong, but it seems like bad decisions are made - a lot. There's always one player who forgets to squeeze up when they're trying to play offside or there's always one player napping when a free kick comes in.

The defence needs organising and I'm not sure Wenger is the one to do it. He's not going anywhere until the end of his contract (sorry, but it's true) so the only thing I can think of is getting some kind of defensive coach.

Totally agree!

I'm always impressed by Lee Dixon on MotD. In my ideal fantasy world he'd come back to coach our defence. However, we all know that's not gonna happen and Wenger's gonna keep serving us up shit!

StuartL · Post by **StuartL** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:42 pm

tonysaunders wrote:
Chips and Chocolate wrote:Getting bullied like that by a Chinese team tells you a lot about that Arsenal team!
I'm trying to look at positives but seriously I can't: we don't know how to defend, that formation is fuckin' useless, we can't get past the center-backs! We're all so predictable! We're absolutely fucked if we don't sign at least 2 defenders but alas we've already made all our summer signings!
And why on earth does Wenger keep giving the likes of Vela or Rosicky a run? They'll never make it as Arsenal players...

Well let's hope for a better 2nd half
Whilst I think that we do need to buy a centre half or two, I'm not sure that's necessarily the problem. Vermalen is a class defender and Koscielny and Djourou aren't bad players. In my opinion, the problem isn't so much personnel, it's the way they're coached. It's hard to judge because you can't quite put your finger on what exactly is wrong, but it seems like bad decisions are made - a lot. There's always one player who forgets to squeeze up when they're trying to play offside or there's always one player napping when a free kick comes in.

The defence needs organising and I'm not sure Wenger is the one to do it. He's not going anywhere until the end of his contract (sorry, but it's true) so the only thing I can think of is getting some kind of defensive coach.

If you think it through in training sessions our defenders play against our forwards who will play one two's, pass. pass pass etc so when they face a team who play direct / high balls they are not used to dealing with it. Not one of our defenders is comfortable in dealing with a high ball if we win it is usually a poor header falling 10 feet away.

We don't change our training methods to cope with playing temas like Stoke / Bolton / Blackburn we carry on tip tapping and let them worry about us

Other teams adapt to cope with us - we do nothign to nullify the opposition.

I honestly don't think our defence actually communicate with each other at all - they do not play as a unit, just the 4 / 5 individuals.

Post by **T.S** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:44 pm

AFCWozza wrote:
tonysaunders wrote:Lookout Greentown. Chamakh is coming on

His link-up play is superb, expect us to create a lot more chances this half with Walcott, Ramsey, Wilshire, Chamakh and Miyachi

Hope you're right. I just can't see it though. I disagree with you about his link-up play. He seems to give the ball away a lot, to me.

Post by **T.S** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:46 pm

StuartL wrote:I honestly don't think our defence actually communicate with each other at all - they do not play as a unit, just the 4 / 5 individuals.

I reckon you might be on to something there.

Chips and Chocolate · Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:47 pm

tonysaunders wrote:
Chips and Chocolate wrote:Getting bullied like that by a Chinese team tells you a lot about that Arsenal team!
I'm trying to look at positives but seriously I can't: we don't know how to defend, that formation is fuckin' useless, we can't get past the center-backs! We're all so predictable! We're absolutely fucked if we don't sign at least 2 defenders but alas we've already made all our summer signings!
And why on earth does Wenger keep giving the likes of Vela or Rosicky a run? They'll never make it as Arsenal players...

Well let's hope for a better 2nd half
Whilst I think that we do need to buy a centre half or two, I'm not sure that's necessarily the problem. Vermalen is a class defender and Koscielny and Djourou aren't bad players. In my opinion, the problem isn't so much personnel, it's the way they're coached. It's hard to judge because you can't quite put your finger on what exactly is wrong, but it seems like bad decisions are made - a lot. There's always one player who forgets to squeeze up when they're trying to play offside or there's always one player napping when a free kick comes in.

The defence needs organising and I'm not sure Wenger is the one to do it. He's not going anywhere until the end of his contract (sorry, but it's true) so the only thing I can think of is getting some kind of defensive coach.

I agree on Vermaelen! Koscielny, while not bad, is not ready to be in the first XI. Playing Cahill or Samba alongside big Tom + replacing Clichy is a must in my opinion!