The first 3 things you'd do if you ran the Club..

[frankbutcher]

Yawn.

1. Sack Wenger and replace with either 1) Pep. 2) Klopp (both far better managers)

2. Sack the board

3. Change the entire loser culture at the club: that means no celebrating of 3rd. Ban all loudmouth interviews from nobodies who've won nothing (hello Chesney). Competition for places in every position a must. Medical team to be thoroughly shaken up. Sign players who join to play for the CLUB, not one individual overrated manager. Let it be known that 2nd is nowhere, same way Alex Ferguson has instilled this at Manure.

Grow up Babs. You treat everyone on this forum like a piece of dog shit on your shoe. Some deserve it, most don't. Chill out.

[highburyJD]

Can you prove David Dein was a failed businessman?
If so, how did he get the money to buy his shares in us?

detailed chapter about Dein in David Conn's book (the beautiful game? or something like that)

We have not won a trophy since David Dein left.

or since I got married
post hoc ergo propter hoc

Say what you like about him, but he went to all first team games and many reserve games.

so do I... so what

David Dein wanted us to rent out Wembley.
In hindsight not such a good idea in terms of fan travel and atmosphere.
But at least we tried playing there for two seasons in the Champions League to see what it was like before deciding.

He was also proved right that the stadium move would take funds away from the transfer kitty.

I was and still am in favour of the stadium move for the long term, but can see his view made sense in the immediate and mid term.

wasn't the difference of opinion that he fell out with the board over
it was going rogue and trying to sell the club behind the back of the board

GET IN THERE NIGEL MEDIOCRE!!!

[highburyJD]

Hate to defend Babs...
but what was wrong with his post?
I dsiagree but it was about the club not peeps here

[aw]

1. Employ Wenger for life, allowing him to continue making maximum profits for me!

2. Buy a new house, car and go on a long holiday around the world with a well equipped harem.

3. Employ a hitman to go through the "The 'What Utter KUNTS!' Thread", making sure that Babatunde is the first one shot

[frankbutcher]

Hate to defend Babs...
but what was wrong with his post?
I dsiagree but it was about the club not peeps here

The yawn part. It's as if every thread is beneath him apart from his own. I like his point of view, but there's no need to treat others as if they shouldn't post.

[highburyJD]

furrymuff
missed that
(pretty low key by his standards)

[augie]

HighburyJD, this might be a stupid question, but how the fcuk can you sell the club behind someone's back ? Fizsman was the main shareholder so how could DD sell his shares without him knowing ?
The fact is that DD got shafted for trying to bring the yank onto the board by getting him to invest in the club in the first place and yes that is the very same yank that phw and all the c**ts on the board at that time objected to and didnt want in their club - funny how quick things changed when he waved a few million under their noses wasnt it ? C**ts

[QuartzGooner]

Can you prove David Dein was a failed businessman?
If so, how did he get the money to buy his shares in us?

detailed chapter about Dein in David Conn's book (the beautiful game? or something like that)

We have not won a trophy since David Dein left.

or since I got married
post hoc ergo propter hoc

Say what you like about him, but he went to all first team games and many reserve games.

so do I... so what

David Dein wanted us to rent out Wembley.
In hindsight not such a good idea in terms of fan travel and atmosphere.
But at least we tried playing there for two seasons in the Champions League to see what it was like before deciding.

He was also proved right that the stadium move would take funds away from the transfer kitty.

I was and still am in favour of the stadium move for the long term, but can see his view made sense in the immediate and mid term.

wasn't the difference of opinion that he fell out with the board over
it was going rogue and trying to sell the club behind the back of the board

GET IN THERE NIGEL MEDIOCRE!!!

1.) Not read Conn's book. So please elaborate or wait for me to read it.

2.) No such thing as co-incidence. Dein's departure coincided with Wenger's pushing of the youth project to the extent that it obscured the glaring need for senior players too.
I believe Dein would have not tip toed around Wenger without pulling him up on his failings, as other board members have during this decline.

3.) For a board member to attend all first team games and many reserve games is a lot more than the current board do. Shows an interest in football not just money.

4.) The Wembley scheme showed an awareness of how it would impact on cashflow and player quality...not bad for a "failed businesman".

5.) As for Dein's departure, it remains speculation but the commonly believed scenario portrays Dein as a villain going behind the board's back to encourage either investment by or a hostile takeover by Kroenke.

Not ethical, IF true.
But also shows a burning desire for Arsenal's football success.

[highburyJD]

No such thing as co-incidence

so it was my wedding that ruined us...?!
hmmm divorce is pretty expensive isn't it...

Conn book:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Beautiful-G ... 0224064363

I think Dein wanted Arsenal success but he very much wanted it to bee seen as his success

[SteveO 35]

HighburyJD, this might be a stupid question, but how the fcuk can you sell the club behind someone's back ? Fizsman was the main shareholder so how could DD sell his shares without him knowing ?
The fact is that DD got shafted for trying to bring the yank onto the board by getting him to invest in the club in the first place and yes that is the very same yank that phw and all the c**ts on the board at that time objected to and didnt want in their club - funny how quick things changed when he waved a few million under their noses wasnt it ? C**ts

Yes, I seem to recall that we didn't need his money and we "don't want his sort". Quite happy to be Chairman for him now he's majority shareholder though. Say what you like about Dein, but PHW is an embarrassment and a total fucking hypocrite

[highburyJD]

worse thing about PHW is he seems to constantly leak stories to the effing Star...
yes he has become a bit of an embarrassment

still dont trust Dein though

[QuartzGooner]

still dont trust Dein though

On account of his vice-chairmanship co-inciding with our best success since the 1930's?

I will read Conn's book to see what your gripe with Dein is based on.

[highburyJD]

I will read Conn's book to see what your gripe with Dein is based on.

interested to hear what you think of it
(I would lend it to you but can't find it - think I left it on a beach somewhere)

[Babatunde]

Yawn.

1. Sack Wenger and replace with either 1) Pep. 2) Klopp (both far better managers)

2. Sack the board

3. Change the entire loser culture at the club: that means no celebrating of 3rd. Ban all loudmouth interviews from nobodies who've won nothing (hello Chesney). Competition for places in every position a must. Medical team to be thoroughly shaken up. Sign players who join to play for the CLUB, not one individual overrated manager. Let it be known that 2nd is nowhere, same way Alex Ferguson has instilled this at Manure.

Grow up Babs. You treat everyone on this forum like a piece of dog shit on your shoe. Some deserve it, most don't. Chill out.

Frank think you misunderstood what I meant pal. The 'yawn' bit wasn't that the thread is beneath me...
It's more that I cannot believe we are still having copy-paste discussions 7 years on! This club is the personification of Groundhog day, it's a recurring nightmare where stuff all changes. It's more my complete boredom with the sorry state and lack of ambition of the club than anyone here really....

[frankbutcher]

Yawn.

1. Sack Wenger and replace with either 1) Pep. 2) Klopp (both far better managers)

2. Sack the board

3. Change the entire loser culture at the club: that means no celebrating of 3rd. Ban all loudmouth interviews from nobodies who've won nothing (hello Chesney). Competition for places in every position a must. Medical team to be thoroughly shaken up. Sign players who join to play for the CLUB, not one individual overrated manager. Let it be known that 2nd is nowhere, same way Alex Ferguson has instilled this at Manure.

Grow up Babs. You treat everyone on this forum like a piece of dog shit on your shoe. Some deserve it, most don't. Chill out.

Frank think you misunderstood what I meant pal. The 'yawn' bit wasn't that the thread is beneath me...
It's more that I cannot believe we are still having copy-paste discussions 7 years on! This club is the personification of Groundhog day, it's a recurring nightmare where stuff all changes. It's more my complete boredom with the sorry state and lack of ambition of the club than anyone here really....

Fair dos. It is Groundhog day. That's why I try to dream up these threads that escape the reality.