CHELSEA AWAY THREAD

[clockender1]

By all means hate a player - thats fine.

apparently...

[donaldo]

SteveO

I wont defend Giroud he is shit end of

But in the first half Diaby and Coquelin were chasing shadows while the Chelsea midfied were cutting us to shreads.The game was lost in the first half

[SteveO 35]

Giroud's getting an awful lot of stick on here, but other questions need to be asked. Why have we got no one that can cross a ball or take a corner? Cleverly just set one up on a plate for Van Persie with the first cross Man U had. We must have had 20 that did not beat the first man or went to the goalkeeper. Sagna is not playing for a move in my opinion, he is just suffering from a shocking lack of confidence. But as with Giroud there is no one that can come off the bench to replace them. This lack of quality in the squad is clearly down to Wenger. We need to buy 3 proven players in the window and the more he says it isn't necessary the more his position becomes untenable.

Another good point. A lot was made last year of our defending of set plays and rightly so, but I think our set pieces 'for' are even worse, Honestly, when we get a free kick or corner I have no expectation of anything. It all looks as if its made up as they go along - no routines whatsoever. Corners more often than not hit the bloke five yards in front of the near post and the first three they let Walcott take were just catching practice for Cech. Attacking free kicks......I know he's out today but they need to use Arteta more often. TV5, Walcott, Cazorla etc have all tried and failed whilst our best dead ball taker by a mile is always overlooked.

Having said that......none of the above excuses a €14m footballer from missing that chance after five minutes.

[SteveO 35]

SteveO

I wont defend Giroud he is shit end of

But in the first half Diaby and Coquelin were chasing shadows while the Chelsea midfied were cutting us to shreads.The game was lost in the first half

Mate - the entire team were shit in the first half weren't they? I'm not excluding Abou from that - he was proper shite as well. I was screaming at Cazorla again though - does he realise that he is allowed to get involved in the first 45 minutes. My father-in-law is a Manc and was round here watching it and commented after 30 mins he'd forgotten Cazorla was even playing. Honestly, anyone playing a high paced pressing game lately has strangled him out of the game

The first half was dire from keeper through to centre forward, without exception

[markyp]

SteveO

I wont defend Giroud he is shit end of

But in the first half Diaby and Coquelin were chasing shadows while the Chelsea midfied were cutting us to shreads.The game was lost in the first half

Mate - the entire team were shit in the first half weren't they? I'm not excluding Abou from that - he was proper shite as well. I was screaming at Cazorla again though - does he realise that he is allowed to get involved in the first 45 minutes. My father-in-law is a Manc and was round here watching it and commented after 30 mins he'd forgotten Cazorla was even playing. Honestly, anyone playing a high paced pressing game lately has strangled him out of the game

The first half was dire from keeper through to centre forward, without exception

indeed cazorla disappeared yet again,he is a luxury player we simply can not accomadate at the moment,thats more cos we are piss poor than him being at fault

[donaldo]

SteveO

I wont defend Giroud he is shit end of

But in the first half Diaby and Coquelin were chasing shadows while the Chelsea midfied were cutting us to shreads.The game was lost in the first half

Mate - the entire team were shit in the first half weren't they? I'm not excluding Abou from that - he was proper shite as well. I was screaming at Cazorla again though - does he realise that he is allowed to get involved in the first 45 minutes. My father-in-law is a Manc and was round here watching it and commented after 30 mins he'd forgotten Cazorla was even playing. Honestly, anyone playing a high paced pressing game lately has strangled him out of the game

The first half was dire from keeper through to centre forward, without exception

Totally agree about Cazorla with the exception of the Reading game he has been a passenger in the last 10 games

[topgoon]

The dilemna of either wanting us to get so crap that AW has to resign on general principle or hoping that he'll get more money to waste on Ligue 2 rubbish and we limp into champs league because injuries or just general shitness catches up with scum/dippers blue.

[northbank123]

Giroud's getting an awful lot of stick on here, but other questions need to be asked. Why have we got no one that can cross a ball or take a corner? Cleverly just set one up on a plate for Van Persie with the first cross Man U had. We must have had 20 that did not beat the first man or went to the goalkeeper. Sagna is not playing for a move in my opinion, he is just suffering from a shocking lack of confidence. But as with Giroud there is no one that can come off the bench to replace them. This lack of quality in the squad is clearly down to Wenger. We need to buy 3 proven players in the window and the more he says it isn't necessary the more his position becomes untenable.

van Persie undoubtedly gets miles better service than Giroud. But somebody planted a cross right on Giroud's head 6 yards out today and he fluffed it. They tried to praise Ivanovic for managing to back in but it was a free header and he missed it. van Judas created a yard of space with his movement and was then clinical with the header. With Giroud it seems like somebody has to create the perfect chance for him because his movement isn't great, and even when he is gifted a sitter he misses half the time. Was anybody in the world confident that Giroud was going to score at 0-0? His finishing is woeful when he does manage to get into a shooting position. Bendtner is a better striker.

Regarding Sagna I think it's just a dip in confidence and form, but we have a right-back on the bench who was playing very well until Sagna came back from injury so it's not that there's nobody to replace him. Jenkinson isn't good enough to come into the team when Sagna has been awful for a fair few games on the trot now, yet he'll undoubtedly be deemed good enough to start at RB next year.

Time was that people raved about how our second string XI would easily be good enough for PL. Not many teams would have had a weaker bench this weekend than us.

[milesgooner]

Once again it come down to Arsenal's (or should that be AW's) spending policy. If you buy a striker for 15m quid you are taking something of a gamble and have to give them a season to settle in. If you buy a 30m quid striker from any country you can expect them to have the quality to make a difference straight away. ..........I'm not holding my breath by the way!

[SteveO 35]

I'm more than happy to have a decent size bet with anyone that fancies it that Giroud will score no more than 10 PL goals next season either

PM me if you're interested

[augie]

I have been a big critic of cazorla on here in recent weeks but I have to say that today I thought that he was better than the Wally - after he scored the goal the braindead c**t went totally awol to the point that I thought that he had gone him I am a critic of the guy and I don't deny that but after finishing the goal well, I thought that he would kick on from there so to go missing like that was especially frustrating

I am finally agreeing with Steve o.....Giroud is nowhere near good enough I never expected that he would be good enough to fill the void left by rvp's departure but I did expect more from him. He was never going to be a stylish centre forward but with that physique he really needed to be stronger and tougher especially in this league and even more so when you consider that he isn't going to be prolific in front of goals. All that being said I do think that wenger (again) needs to shoulder a large % of the blame - if you buy a centre forward like Giroud then you need to build a system that will work for him. A big centre forward needs either another striker alongside him in a 4-4-2 or he needs to good wingers supplying quality crosses for him......we provide neither He isn't the type of guy that is going to provide any real threat running in behind the opposition back 4 nor is he a Bergkamp playmaker type of striker so what is the point in playing him then ?

All in all we were shit today and pointing the blame at the ref is as embarrassing as it is inaccurate I thought both our centre backs did well, wilshire tried hard without really hitting the heights we expect and whilst coq did very well in possession, it has to be said that defensively he was poor. Both of our full backs were very poor but what can you say about diaby - never has a guy that has contributed so little, get as many chances as he has. He should have had a penno against him in the first two minutes for a stupid foul and of course he got caught fcuking about in possession which led to their 2nd goal - that wasn't even something that we can put down to a lack of sharpness cos he has made the same fcuk ups many times during his stay with us and it merely highlights the complete lack of intelligence this moron has

[markyp]

I'm more than happy to have a decent size bet with anyone that fancies it that Giroud will score no more than 10 PL goals next season either

PM me if you're interested

Bang on SteveO , im with you on that,i bet he doesnt even score ten in training all season

[topgoon]

Didn't bother listening to his usual post match shite but 5live just quoted him as saying he didn't think we would make top4 is that true and does that mean it's time for panic buys and did anyone just hear that delusional gooner talking about how poor the chavs were and how we would make top 4 because everyone was inconsistent.

Some Arsenal fans are just embarassing

[markyp]

Didn't bother listening to his usual post match shite but 5live just quoted him as saying he didn't think we would make top4 is that true and does that mean it's time for panic buys and did anyone just hear that delusional gooner talking about how poor the chavs were and how we would make top 4 because everyone was inconsistent.

Some Arsenal fans are just embarassing

some??dont you mean most as in about 95% of the cretins that fill the emirates everyweek to worship lord wenger,its only us lot here that are immune to his fucking spell

[Dan_85]

Just in from watching in the pub. Second half better, but not great. First half, truly abysmal. That's a group of players right there who have no idea what each of them is supposed to be doing on the pitch. Devoid of ideas, direction, fight, spirit. Woeful.

That's not a bad bunch of players we sent out there. OK, maybe not a title wining squad but they are a whole lot better than what they show, i'm convinced of it. It all comes down to Wenger and his total lack of proper management of this squad...