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I’ve said this time and time again now. We are in a sweet spot to win fuck all.

We are above the likes of the Europa League but never going to win the Champions League. We are after the League (tough) and then the two domestic cups. You need a bit of luck to win those. I actually don’t see us winning anything else with Arteta. Just don’t see it happening. His chance to do it has already passed and he blew them all.

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Limerick Gooner wrote:
Wed May 21, 2025 10:34 pm
Retro Gunner wrote:
Wed May 21, 2025 10:26 pm
the playing mantis wrote:
Wed May 21, 2025 10:01 pm
Retro Gunner wrote:
Wed May 21, 2025 9:43 pm
Perryashburtongroves wrote:
Wed May 21, 2025 9:37 pm
Will we have to go through all this nonsense again next week when the Chavs win the Europa Conference League South Windscreen Vans Shield with people getting all depressed that we weren't in it?

Very different Perry.

Firstly, like them or loathe them, they're not the scum. Secondly, I don't think their fans will treat it as the big deal that scum fans will treat this win. Thirdly, no CL place with the trophy. Fourth, they aren't in the desperate financial mess that the scum are in and this CL qualification will seriously help them.

I for one, would rather the chavs don't win it, but won't lose a minutes sleep if they do.
My main thing was finances retro, but it's not going to make that much difference. Had they not chucked in the league to focus they would likely be same place financially.

The scum will get 11 million for finishing 17th. a 6th place finish would have got them 42 million, so a 31 million shortfall.

I believe we got something like 100 for qualifying for the CL knock out phase. They are the numbers that the scum now have the possibility of achieving and that blows away the figure for a PL finish. That's why I'm pissed off. I wanted them to get a 17th place finish, 11 million and no CL place, because that would have dumped them into an even bigger financial hole.

I'm also pissed off that they won a trophy and I'm sorry, but I think the rationalising of it on here as "it's worthless, it's like the Autoglass trophy, blah bah", while maybe true, is only people trying to console themselves. A proper Gooner doesn't want that lot winning a cheap box of chocolates in the church raffle. To make it worse, their two bob supporters will be delighted and will consider it a better season than ours.
What can we do about it though? Nothing.

It’s a shit trophy. Had to beat Championship level fodder on the way to facing the worst United side in living memory. If you are jealous of that then more fool you.

Another one missing the point. I don't give a fuck about the Europa League, but I don't want that lot winning fucking anything and I certainly don't want them getting into the CL. They've done both. Mark my words, they'll be telling us they've had a better season than us and what's fucking irritating, is that they'll mean it.

To be honest, how should it be analysed? 2nd place, CL qualification and errr, that's it...versus...17th place, a trophy and CL qualification. We can ridicule the trophy (justifiably) all we want, but they don't care. It's a 4th European trophy on their roll of honour.

What really pisses me off is knowing that we're in the same old nothing place and Arteta ain't the bloke to change that. Not quite bad enough, but not quite good enough.

Fucking horrendous season, where we've regressed significantly. Just glad it's almost over.

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Retro Gunner wrote:
Wed May 21, 2025 10:45 pm
the playing mantis wrote:
Wed May 21, 2025 9:52 pm
Retro Gunner wrote:
Wed May 21, 2025 9:35 pm
the playing mantis wrote:
Wed May 21, 2025 9:15 pm
Rob, the Europa when cl teams dropped down into it so completely different...

This is like pulling the big fat ugly bird in a club and boasting about it afterwards as any holes a goal.

Utter nonsense from ugly blokes who have to sink to such depth to get there dicks wet.

Just repeat that to any scum fans will properly annoy them as they know it's true.

Fair enough Mantis, but what if you're a reasonably good looking boke, but not good looking enough to pull the stunning birds that you fancy like mad and have to watch as you leave the club every Saturday and your good looking mates are taking those birds home? Do you look across at the ugly bloke who's taking the ugly bird home and think "well, at least I'm not him", as you walk home alone to knock one out in your cold, single bed.

It's your analogy mate. We might not be the ugly bloke with the ugly girl, but we ain't pulling the stunners either, even though our mum (Arteta) keeps telling us to iron our shirt a little bit better next week and we're bound to pull a super model. All we're pulling is our own cock.
Well considering the fat bird isn't let into the club we are in then no. We can't pull the fat bird even if we wanted to, which we don't. Yet pulling her is nothing to boast about. We should rather be proud of not stopping to those depths imo as we have had to fail massively to get there. So it's like beating ourselves up that someone else has pulled something we didn't want in the first place, we have in the past pulled decent birds or got smelly fingers at least, yet because of a drought do we really want to resort to the dregs, or more accurately get jealous of those having the dregs, and boasting about it? Makes no sense.

Would you rather win a bunch of 2nd rate trophies...well 1 in this instance, or get close and have the potential possibility of winning something good? Maybe if they kept winning them, but they are not, and we were really as bad as some make out, we are not and we all know we could be fixed in an instant with the right man in charge.
And are we pssd off that whomever one the fa trophy or ldv vans and we didn't? If not why not? Are we pssd of when Chelsea win the conference or when west ham won it? No we laughed at west ham as did the scum.

Are we losing our shit about palace winning the fa cup? No. Yet that a decent achievement evens despite it's devalued status of big clubs not taking as seriously as they once did.

It's the zenith data systems of Europe. Don't have to achieve anything to enter and the better teams are excluded. Even the league cup has more cachet/difficulty.

Have them something meaningful and then we can beat the club with it.

Not being overtly bothered about this doesn't mean we are happy with our own club.

Yes they won a trophy, but an utterly 2nd rate trophy.

You're completely missing the point. We don't want the fat ugly bird, but we don't pull the good looking birds either. It's always going home alone, wishing you were with the stunner, but trying to console yourself that you're better than the guy with the ugly bird, as you knock one out to a flickering fluorescent tube in your bedsit.

Never mind, old mother Arteta tells you it will all be different next weekend, after you've bought a 2nd rate aftershave, because you never buy the top notch ones that the good looking guys use and a snide designer shirt from the market stall, that's a little bit frayed on the collar, but hopefully no one will notice.

10 + years of nothingness under the French clown and we're 5 years into the next mind numbing phase, with no end in sight. You know, watching that first half against Newcastle last weekend, everything about the performance was peak Wenger. I kept expecting to see Denilson and Song in midfield.

It's not about winning the fucking devalued Europa League, it's just putting it into stark relief that I've seen it all before and with Lego Head at the helm and the owners we've got (although they've certainly backed him), nothing will change.

Would you rather slide one up Beth dittos haggisy vadge or have your comforting clean hand...I know what I'd prefer tbh. But then maybes that's just me!

Anyway I'm done.

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Retro Gunner wrote:
Wed May 21, 2025 10:56 pm
Limerick Gooner wrote:
Wed May 21, 2025 10:34 pm
Retro Gunner wrote:
Wed May 21, 2025 10:26 pm
the playing mantis wrote:
Wed May 21, 2025 10:01 pm
Retro Gunner wrote:
Wed May 21, 2025 9:43 pm



Very different Perry.

Firstly, like them or loathe them, they're not the scum. Secondly, I don't think their fans will treat it as the big deal that scum fans will treat this win. Thirdly, no CL place with the trophy. Fourth, they aren't in the desperate financial mess that the scum are in and this CL qualification will seriously help them.

I for one, would rather the chavs don't win it, but won't lose a minutes sleep if they do.
My main thing was finances retro, but it's not going to make that much difference. Had they not chucked in the league to focus they would likely be same place financially.

The scum will get 11 million for finishing 17th. a 6th place finish would have got them 42 million, so a 31 million shortfall.

I believe we got something like 100 for qualifying for the CL knock out phase. They are the numbers that the scum now have the possibility of achieving and that blows away the figure for a PL finish. That's why I'm pissed off. I wanted them to get a 17th place finish, 11 million and no CL place, because that would have dumped them into an even bigger financial hole.

I'm also pissed off that they won a trophy and I'm sorry, but I think the rationalising of it on here as "it's worthless, it's like the Autoglass trophy, blah bah", while maybe true, is only people trying to console themselves. A proper Gooner doesn't want that lot winning a cheap box of chocolates in the church raffle. To make it worse, their two bob supporters will be delighted and will consider it a better season than ours.
What can we do about it though? Nothing.

It’s a shit trophy. Had to beat Championship level fodder on the way to facing the worst United side in living memory. If you are jealous of that then more fool you.

Another one missing the point. I don't give a fuck about the Europa League, but I don't want that lot winning fucking anything and I certainly don't want them getting into the CL. They've done both. Mark my words, they'll be telling us they've had a better season than us and what's fucking irritating, is that they'll mean it.

To be honest, how should it be analysed? 2nd place, CL qualification and errr, that's it...versus...17th place, a trophy and CL qualification. We can ridicule the trophy (justifiably) all we want, but they don't care. It's a 4th European trophy on their roll of honour.

What really pisses me off is knowing that we're in the same old nothing place and Arteta ain't the bloke to change that. Not quite bad enough, but not quite good enough.

Fucking horrendous season, where we've regressed significantly. Just glad it's almost over.
But they do care. That's the point. The ones I know do atvleast. As soon as the quality and standard and conditions are mentioned they get arsey. It's like Liverpool's COVID title or cities buying the league. Although people actually care about the league so not a perfect comparison. No one cares show many Europa's you have won, like they don't care how many zenith data systems you have.

And to repeat this in no way absolves our powers that be for our own failings.

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the playing mantis wrote:
Wed May 21, 2025 10:57 pm
Retro Gunner wrote:
Wed May 21, 2025 10:45 pm
the playing mantis wrote:
Wed May 21, 2025 9:52 pm
Retro Gunner wrote:
Wed May 21, 2025 9:35 pm
the playing mantis wrote:
Wed May 21, 2025 9:15 pm
Rob, the Europa when cl teams dropped down into it so completely different...

This is like pulling the big fat ugly bird in a club and boasting about it afterwards as any holes a goal.

Utter nonsense from ugly blokes who have to sink to such depth to get there dicks wet.

Just repeat that to any scum fans will properly annoy them as they know it's true.

Fair enough Mantis, but what if you're a reasonably good looking boke, but not good looking enough to pull the stunning birds that you fancy like mad and have to watch as you leave the club every Saturday and your good looking mates are taking those birds home? Do you look across at the ugly bloke who's taking the ugly bird home and think "well, at least I'm not him", as you walk home alone to knock one out in your cold, single bed.

It's your analogy mate. We might not be the ugly bloke with the ugly girl, but we ain't pulling the stunners either, even though our mum (Arteta) keeps telling us to iron our shirt a little bit better next week and we're bound to pull a super model. All we're pulling is our own cock.
Well considering the fat bird isn't let into the club we are in then no. We can't pull the fat bird even if we wanted to, which we don't. Yet pulling her is nothing to boast about. We should rather be proud of not stopping to those depths imo as we have had to fail massively to get there. So it's like beating ourselves up that someone else has pulled something we didn't want in the first place, we have in the past pulled decent birds or got smelly fingers at least, yet because of a drought do we really want to resort to the dregs, or more accurately get jealous of those having the dregs, and boasting about it? Makes no sense.

Would you rather win a bunch of 2nd rate trophies...well 1 in this instance, or get close and have the potential possibility of winning something good? Maybe if they kept winning them, but they are not, and we were really as bad as some make out, we are not and we all know we could be fixed in an instant with the right man in charge.
And are we pssd off that whomever one the fa trophy or ldv vans and we didn't? If not why not? Are we pssd of when Chelsea win the conference or when west ham won it? No we laughed at west ham as did the scum.

Are we losing our shit about palace winning the fa cup? No. Yet that a decent achievement evens despite it's devalued status of big clubs not taking as seriously as they once did.

It's the zenith data systems of Europe. Don't have to achieve anything to enter and the better teams are excluded. Even the league cup has more cachet/difficulty.

Have them something meaningful and then we can beat the club with it.

Not being overtly bothered about this doesn't mean we are happy with our own club.

Yes they won a trophy, but an utterly 2nd rate trophy.

You're completely missing the point. We don't want the fat ugly bird, but we don't pull the good looking birds either. It's always going home alone, wishing you were with the stunner, but trying to console yourself that you're better than the guy with the ugly bird, as you knock one out to a flickering fluorescent tube in your bedsit.

Never mind, old mother Arteta tells you it will all be different next weekend, after you've bought a 2nd rate aftershave, because you never buy the top notch ones that the good looking guys use and a snide designer shirt from the market stall, that's a little bit frayed on the collar, but hopefully no one will notice.

10 + years of nothingness under the French clown and we're 5 years into the next mind numbing phase, with no end in sight. You know, watching that first half against Newcastle last weekend, everything about the performance was peak Wenger. I kept expecting to see Denilson and Song in midfield.

It's not about winning the fucking devalued Europa League, it's just putting it into stark relief that I've seen it all before and with Lego Head at the helm and the owners we've got (although they've certainly backed him), nothing will change.

Would you rather slide one up Beth dittos haggisy vadge or have your comforting clean hand...I know what I'd prefer tbh. But then maybes that's just me!

Anyway I'm done.

Again, you're missing the point. I want the stunner, but as much as I don't want the fat ugly bird, should I be ridiculing the guy that's pulled her? I'll turn this round on you.....so you're happy to be having a w.ank every Saturday night, with the lingering, slightly acrid smell of your cheap aftershave and the hole in your socks, while your good looking mate is next door banging a super model. I'd be smartening up and doing all I could to be in front of him next week and pulling that bird. I'd be telling Mother Arteta to fuck off with the pony clothing she's buying me from the catalogue and making myself a contender.

But maybe that's just me.

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Off to kip.

No offence intended to anyone. I'm just pissed off.

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Can’t understand the logic here. Do you bedwetters not see the fact that by being in the Champions League we have an almost Everest like task to win it? Yet you can qualify for Europa and have a much easier task to win a trophy?

What do you want Arsenal to do? Should we drop our standards so we can qualify for Europa or the Conference League? Then we should win either of them. We had all this in previous seasons and came up short in the Final and in the Semi but that was when it was a tough thing to win. You had the likes of Atletico Madrid in it or Chelsea when we lost the Semi and Final.

This year’s Europa is an absolute joke of a tournament. Look at their route to the final. Complete utter dross. The fact Spurs have lost 20 times in the League shows the standard. All season they have been beat in the League and then won in Europa straight after. Literally there has been no change in their form. They are simply able to beat weaker sides they face in Europe. And I ask the question. What do you want Arsenal to do to stop Spurs winning a trophy we were never in?? We have no control over it.

As I say, we are in a middle ground of too good for certain trophies but not good enough to win the top prizes. The chasm between the two levels of football is enormous. Unfortunately UEFA have strengthened the European Cup in to an effective Super League at the same time as making the Europa League as weak as the Conference League.

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Woke up this morning actually not giving a f*ck that Totnumb won that trophy last night.
They,their fans and their ever loving media can have their little moment. However anyone who knows football will know how devalued this competition now is.
I'm sure the footballing powerhouses in Europe are not waking up today saying " we had an easy ride for a few years, but now Spurs have turned the corner our fun is over"
No one outside The Hank Marvin Stadium should take this too seriously.

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Limerick Gooner wrote:
Wed May 21, 2025 10:55 pm
I’ve said this time and time again now. We are in a sweet spot to win fuck all.

We are above the likes of the Europa League but never going to win the Champions League. We are after the League (tough) and then the two domestic cups. You need a bit of luck to win those. I actually don’t see us winning anything else with Arteta. Just don’t see it happening. His chance to do it has already passed and he blew them all.
Prefectly put.Were in the same situation as Poxychinos team was at the bins.

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Retro Gunner wrote:
Wed May 21, 2025 11:07 pm
the playing mantis wrote:
Wed May 21, 2025 10:57 pm
Retro Gunner wrote:
Wed May 21, 2025 10:45 pm
the playing mantis wrote:
Wed May 21, 2025 9:52 pm
Retro Gunner wrote:
Wed May 21, 2025 9:35 pm



Fair enough Mantis, but what if you're a reasonably good looking boke, but not good looking enough to pull the stunning birds that you fancy like mad and have to watch as you leave the club every Saturday and your good looking mates are taking those birds home? Do you look across at the ugly bloke who's taking the ugly bird home and think "well, at least I'm not him", as you walk home alone to knock one out in your cold, single bed.

It's your analogy mate. We might not be the ugly bloke with the ugly girl, but we ain't pulling the stunners either, even though our mum (Arteta) keeps telling us to iron our shirt a little bit better next week and we're bound to pull a super model. All we're pulling is our own cock.
Well considering the fat bird isn't let into the club we are in then no. We can't pull the fat bird even if we wanted to, which we don't. Yet pulling her is nothing to boast about. We should rather be proud of not stopping to those depths imo as we have had to fail massively to get there. So it's like beating ourselves up that someone else has pulled something we didn't want in the first place, we have in the past pulled decent birds or got smelly fingers at least, yet because of a drought do we really want to resort to the dregs, or more accurately get jealous of those having the dregs, and boasting about it? Makes no sense.

Would you rather win a bunch of 2nd rate trophies...well 1 in this instance, or get close and have the potential possibility of winning something good? Maybe if they kept winning them, but they are not, and we were really as bad as some make out, we are not and we all know we could be fixed in an instant with the right man in charge.
And are we pssd off that whomever one the fa trophy or ldv vans and we didn't? If not why not? Are we pssd of when Chelsea win the conference or when west ham won it? No we laughed at west ham as did the scum.

Are we losing our shit about palace winning the fa cup? No. Yet that a decent achievement evens despite it's devalued status of big clubs not taking as seriously as they once did.

It's the zenith data systems of Europe. Don't have to achieve anything to enter and the better teams are excluded. Even the league cup has more cachet/difficulty.

Have them something meaningful and then we can beat the club with it.

Not being overtly bothered about this doesn't mean we are happy with our own club.

Yes they won a trophy, but an utterly 2nd rate trophy.

You're completely missing the point. We don't want the fat ugly bird, but we don't pull the good looking birds either. It's always going home alone, wishing you were with the stunner, but trying to console yourself that you're better than the guy with the ugly bird, as you knock one out to a flickering fluorescent tube in your bedsit.

Never mind, old mother Arteta tells you it will all be different next weekend, after you've bought a 2nd rate aftershave, because you never buy the top notch ones that the good looking guys use and a snide designer shirt from the market stall, that's a little bit frayed on the collar, but hopefully no one will notice.

10 + years of nothingness under the French clown and we're 5 years into the next mind numbing phase, with no end in sight. You know, watching that first half against Newcastle last weekend, everything about the performance was peak Wenger. I kept expecting to see Denilson and Song in midfield.

It's not about winning the fucking devalued Europa League, it's just putting it into stark relief that I've seen it all before and with Lego Head at the helm and the owners we've got (although they've certainly backed him), nothing will change.

Would you rather slide one up Beth dittos haggisy vadge or have your comforting clean hand...I know what I'd prefer tbh. But then maybes that's just me!

Anyway I'm done.

Again, you're missing the point. I want the stunner, but as much as I don't want the fat ugly bird, should I be ridiculing the guy that's pulled her? I'll turn this round on you.....so you're happy to be having a w.ank every Saturday night, with the lingering, slightly acrid smell of your cheap aftershave and the hole in your socks, while your good looking mate is next door banging a super model. I'd be smartening up and doing all I could to be in front of him next week and pulling that bird. I'd be telling Mother Arteta to fuck off with the pony clothing she's buying me from the catalogue and making myself a contender.

But maybe that's just me.
I don't understand. If they want the fat mess fine. But making a big song and dance about it and showing it off as if it's fine sort of massive achievement leaves them open to ridicule. Irrespective of our own shortcomings .

We cant win conference or fa trophy why are we not pssd about that either?

Had arteta won this trophy would you feel any different about his shortcomings in the comps that matter?? I highly doubt it, so why does scum winning it make any difference. It's tin pot.

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Try to stay off twatter for a while, ignore the mindless memes and the brain dead bantz and keep yourself grounded in what is the reality.

This is how they got to the final of that shite -

Qarabag / Ferencváros / AZ Alkmaar / Galatasaray (lost) / Roma (drew) / Rangers (drew) / Hoffenheim / Elfsborg / Frankfurt / Bodø.

They then beat the worst united side in living memory in the final despite only having one shot on target all game. The gods aligned for the first time in a hundred years in the Pound Land euro cup - big wow.

Their manager WILL get the sack in the summer because in any normal functioning league they would have been relegated this season.

The entire game had all the hallmarks of 16th v 17th in a crap shoot to see who is the least shit like Sheffield United playing Southampton on a supposed super Sunday.

They'll lose again at the weekend making it 22 league defeats this season, incredible banter, but they won the Kleenex Cup so they're going to conquer the world :coffeespit:

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Fucking quarabag, effsborg and bodo gimps in semi final what sort of fucking cup is that FFS??????


and these lot now in CL.....fuckin ridiculous

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Fucking hell, not another round of pointless internationals against Andorra and Senegal when the PL season is over :roll:

Was hoping Rice Saka and MLS got a long rest after Sunday

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Sky have two victory parades to cover this Weekend...One in North London and one on Merseyside...There won't be a drop of sperm left in the Sky studio.

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Natural Born Gooner wrote:
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Fucking hell, not another round of pointless internationals against Andorra and Senegal when the PL season is over :roll:

Was hoping Rice Saka and MLS got a long rest after Sunday
Ridiculous.

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